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Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: mopar dave] #2493761
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You can check The Driveshaft Shop. He built my old shaft in NY for my Cuda. Still works great. I found out that he is over here in NC, now. Will probably be having him build me an aluminum one this time. I have heard more than once, that guys changing over from M/S to aluminum have seen a difference.


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Originally Posted By sgcuda
You can check The Driveshaft Shop. He built my old shaft in NY for my Cuda. Still works great. I found out that he is over here in NC, now. Will probably be having him build me an aluminum one this time. I have heard more than once, that guys changing over from M/S to aluminum have seen a difference.


That's funny, I have never had anybody say they saw anything on a slip going to aluminum. Always hear people saw zip. For years.
And I have heard of guys hurting aluminum driveshafts. One such guy is the guy who bought my old car.
Just like rollerized trannies. Spent all the money on one years ago, saw nothing.


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Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: B3422W5] #2493824
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Give these guys a call - real nice product and reasonable price!!!


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Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: B3422W5] #2493825
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Originally Posted By B3422W5
That's funny, I have never had anybody say they saw anything on a slip going to aluminum. Always hear people saw zip. For years.
And I have heard of guys hurting aluminum driveshafts. One such guy is the guy who bought my old car.
Just like rollerized trannies. Spent all the money on one years ago, saw nothing.


Maybe not in a street car. Guys from 2 different 4.70 groups near me both have told me they have picked up going to aluminum. I didn't ask them, they told me outright. If you hurt an aluminum driveshaft, maybe you shouldn't have bought it at Walmart.

Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: max_maniac] #2493839
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ill check them out tomorrow.

Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: mopar dave] #2493888
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I think the driveshaft shop was on the mopar forums when he was in ny, and he was always pushing aluminum driveshafts. He used to guarantee a gain at the track. I remember the mopar mag did a test on the coronet at etown and showed a gain doing a direct swap to an aluminum shaft. But it's hard to believe anything in the magazines. Maybe the steel one was filled with concrete.

Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: JAMESDART] #2493890
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Im really interested in the 3" cm shaft. Dont know why aluminum shafts are so expensive. Bay City said 600 for an aluminum shaft. Ill get back on the calls when i get to work today.

Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: mopar dave] #2493923
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We had a Denny's in the Duster since day one. Beat the snot out of it for a few years. Installed a Dana and needed it shortened. Took it to Ann Arbor Driveshaft and they shortened and balanced it and we beat on it for another 10 seasons. It's still in great shape!

Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: cl440] #2493969
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Called Dts and ann arbor. DTS was in a hurry to get off the phone and his price was right in the middle of what i have now.Ann Arbor wasnt sure what i needed for strenght, but wanted to do mild steel wasnt sure if i needed 3 or 3.5". I would have to get my current shaft down there if going a 3". Strange just told me cm is heavier than steel shaft. Opposite of what i was thinking. Still liking that cm 3" from strange for 250+yoke.

Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: mopar dave] #2494006
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Pay attentions to material/length/diameter/RPM regarding critical speed. There's a chart on Mark Williams website. Anyone building shafts should know that info and not be guessing.


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Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: mopar dave] #2494010
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My current S/P Cuda has a Mark Williams C.M. 3.0 x 42.5 center to center long driveshaft in it, the car had 5.86 gears in the Dana 60 and ran 7.80s ET at 187.+ MPH with a Blown B1 motor on methanol alcohol running 16x33x15 tires on a 15 inch wide rims, I'm not sure what the driveshaft RPM where back then confused I changed the rear gears to a set of 4.56 and the car now runs 9.0 ET at 147.+ MPH with a set of 14x32xW on the same rims shruggy
My message is your way better off buying a better driveshaft than you need now than find out later you need a better one when you hop the car up some more later work
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Yes. I understand and agree. Most places are saying cm is way over kill. Dr.Diff suggested the strange 3" cm shaft with the spicer slip yoke for my combo. That seems like plenty shaft for $330. Whats your opinions on the spicer slip yoke strength?

Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: mopar dave] #2494044
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Originally Posted By mopar dave
Yes. I understand and agree. Most places are saying cm is way over kill. Dr.Diff suggested the strange 3" cm shaft with the spicer slip yoke for my combo. That seems like plenty shaft for $330. Whats your opinions on the spicer slip yoke strength?


I just bought a 1350 forged yoke from Jegs for my 904 swap. Think they get them from inland empire driveline.
Spicer should be fine if it isn't cast
I have a 727 DTS driveshaft in my car now I am going to sell. Not sure what slip yoke it has. Local outfit is building the new one for my 904.most local racers over here use them.
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Have another engine in the works that will make more steam

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Re: Shopping for a drive shaft [Re: mopar dave] #2494045
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I'm going to be in the same situation as soon as the engine & trans are back in the car. I got a new Strange S-60 from Dr. Diff, but he told me to measure things first before I order a new driveshaft, rather than replacing it w/ an OEM-length shaft for an E-body Dana 60 (if that's even possible).

3" vs 3.5"? Not sure how much clearance my bolt-on driveshaft loop has w/ a larger-than-OEM 3.5"...

Mild steel vs chro-moly vs ???

3800#-ish w/ driver, 650+ HP & 600-ish torque, 727 foot-braked, targeting low 10s in the 1/4.

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Yep. Me too. Wants me to measure and order from his site. Strange list the slip yoke as heavy duty. Not sure if its cast. Same one i have on my dynotech shaft.

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My car has a Mikes Ultraglide in it from before I bought it so I don't really know if the Mark William tranny yoke is a steel Spicer or which brand and exactly the type of material confused blush
It has taken a lot of abuse form me though, 1.27 60 Ft times so far at 2750 lbs. boogie
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LOL! Sounds like fun. I found a couple write ups on the cast yokes. Looks like 800hp in a mid size car is what they can handle. Im thinking 3300-3500#. Not sure what the spicer slip yokes are, cast, nodular or chromemoly?

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Originally Posted By mopar dave
Yes. I understand and agree. Most places are saying cm is way over kill. Dr.Diff suggested the strange 3" cm shaft with the spicer slip yoke for my combo. That seems like plenty shaft for $330. Whats your opinions on the spicer slip yoke strength?


That is the exact shaft I just got for my Savoy and it is perfect in every way. Welds look good,slip yoke is strong,joints are solid,and it is perfectly balanced. I used to have a vibration now it's completely gone with the new Strange drive shaft.
That Spicer slip yoke is plenty beefy enough for most anything twocents

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Ok. Im sure thats the one im gonna get. $330 is a good price as well.

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Originally Posted By mopar dave
Talked to dr diff about a driveshaft. Suggested the strange 3" cm with 1350 joints and a spicer yoke for $365.

I got one from the Doc for my Bee. Was a nice piece. I'm about to order another.


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