Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Auto Stop/Start #2464350
03/10/18 05:04 PM
03/10/18 05:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
7
71birdJ68 Offline OP
master
71birdJ68  Offline OP
master
7

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
New Jeep has auto stop/start, has anybody figured out a way to disable this permanently?

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2464352
03/10/18 05:11 PM
03/10/18 05:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,922
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Online content
I Win
stumpy  Online Content
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,922
Grand Prairie,Texas
My wife's Cherokee has a button on the dash marked A that shuts it off but she has to hit it every time she starts the car. One thing to know about the s/s is if it starts showing a notice on the instrument cluster that it can't work because the battery is charging it's time to replace the battery. Also your fuel milage will drop about a mile per gallon when the battery starts to go bad because the charging system works all full blast all the time. Her factory battery lasted a little over two years.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2464360
03/10/18 05:25 PM
03/10/18 05:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,922
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Online content
I Win
stumpy  Online Content
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,922
Grand Prairie,Texas
I found this on a jeep site. http://jeepgarage.org/f156/solution-to-disable-auto-start-stop-185234.html

Guy on the same site is selling a plug in that disables it for $125.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2464643
03/11/18 11:25 AM
03/11/18 11:25 AM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,824
MI, usa
dvw Offline
master
dvw  Offline
master

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,824
MI, usa
Unplug the plunger style hood switch.
Doug

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2464770
03/11/18 03:08 PM
03/11/18 03:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,922
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Online content
I Win
stumpy  Online Content
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,922
Grand Prairie,Texas
Problem with unplugging the hood switch is that it may disable emergency equipment like the air bags etc. because it makes the computer think the hood is open.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2464781
03/11/18 03:34 PM
03/11/18 03:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,065
Niles , Ohio
T
therocks Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks  Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
T

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,065
Niles , Ohio
I agree my sons has an off switch on the dash.Look in the Owners manual it should show one.Rocky


Chrysler Firepower
Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: therocks] #2464865
03/11/18 07:07 PM
03/11/18 07:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
7
71birdJ68 Offline OP
master
71birdJ68  Offline OP
master
7

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
This is a Compass, I found the hood switch, but not going to unhook unless I know it won't affect anything else. I emailed the guy that has the plug in thing, but it is just for Grand C, so, waiting to see if he has something for the Compass.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2464879
03/11/18 07:38 PM
03/11/18 07:38 PM
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 374
Alberta, Canada
300rag Offline
enthusiast
300rag  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 374
Alberta, Canada
Originally Posted By 71birdJ68
This is a Compass, I found the hood switch, but not going to unhook unless I know it won't affect anything else. I emailed the guy that has the plug in thing, but it is just for Grand C, so, waiting to see if he has something for the Compass.


If it has remote start, that function will no longer work if it thinks the hood is open.


Peter



'65 300 'vert 413/4spd
'18 Challenger R/T Shaker
'19 Durango R/T
Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2464906
03/11/18 08:38 PM
03/11/18 08:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
DAYCLONA Offline
I Live Here
DAYCLONA  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
Originally Posted By 71birdJ68
New Jeep has auto stop/start, has anybody figured out a way to disable this permanently?





... http://www.smartstopstart.com/

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: DAYCLONA] #2464928
03/11/18 09:08 PM
03/11/18 09:08 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
7
71birdJ68 Offline OP
master
71birdJ68  Offline OP
master
7

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
I just got an email from them, nothing for the Compass, but he said they were hoping to make one for it. Thanks

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2464965
03/11/18 10:32 PM
03/11/18 10:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,922
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Online content
I Win
stumpy  Online Content
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,922
Grand Prairie,Texas
If you disconnect the hood latch switch the remote start will not work but if you disconnect the plunger hood switch it will work but you are back into the who knows what else won't work stage.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2464972
03/11/18 10:54 PM
03/11/18 10:54 PM
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,069
Michigan
A
A727Tflite Offline
master
A727Tflite  Offline
master
A

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,069
Michigan
Call 1-800-992-1997 - FCA National Customer Service and ask them. They may be able to help.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2465000
03/11/18 11:29 PM
03/11/18 11:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 28,067
Irving, TX
feets Offline
Senior Management
feets  Offline
Senior Management

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 28,067
Irving, TX
Will the wipers work correctly if the hood switch is disabled?

When I had a hiccup with the hood switch on my Mercedes the wipers didn't function properly. The'd only work with the car at speed and the wiper speed was not adjustable.


We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind.
- Stu Harmon
Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: feets] #2465030
03/12/18 12:23 AM
03/12/18 12:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,552
Rittman Ohio
fourgearsavoy Offline
I Live Here
fourgearsavoy  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,552
Rittman Ohio
Security systems will be disabled as well on most systems with a hood switch. I would not be concerned with the safety systems like airbags or any other SRS belt functions because most of those systems are on a separate buss.
I would think that a simple push of a button when you start the car wouldn't be that unreasonable shruggy

Gus beer


64 Plymouth Savoy
493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow
5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box
Dana 60
Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: fourgearsavoy] #2465038
03/12/18 12:37 AM
03/12/18 12:37 AM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
7
71birdJ68 Offline OP
master
71birdJ68  Offline OP
master
7

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
Every time you get in your car, start the engine, and then you have to push another button, every single time you drive. It gets old. Oh, and another stupid part of the function, when you pull in to a parking spot, the engine dies, and then when you put it in park, the engine starts up again. The starter, and battery have to be over worked with stuff.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2465097
03/12/18 09:33 AM
03/12/18 09:33 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,244
West Virginia
N
NewbombTurkk Offline
master
NewbombTurkk  Offline
master
N

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,244
West Virginia
Another reason I stick to pre-2005 Grand Cherokees with the 4.0.....simple and no touch screens or fancy electronics stuff. I would like side airbags though.


1969 Buick Sportwagon 455 Stage 1 Ram Air SOLD
Nationwise Auto Parts Alumni 1982-1984

Now 1972 El Camino, original 402
Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2465099
03/12/18 09:37 AM
03/12/18 09:37 AM
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 5,183
P
Porter67 Offline
master
Porter67  Offline
master
P

Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 5,183
Why even buy that make model if its that much of a issue to you?

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2465107
03/12/18 10:01 AM
03/12/18 10:01 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,065
Niles , Ohio
T
therocks Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks  Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
T

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,065
Niles , Ohio
My sons Jeep once you turn the auto start off its off till you push the button to reengage it.Rocky


Chrysler Firepower
Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2465146
03/12/18 11:59 AM
03/12/18 11:59 AM
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,509
Tulsa, Oklahoma
340Cuda Offline
master
340Cuda  Offline
master

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,509
Tulsa, Oklahoma
Is it that irradiating? My wife drives a Toyota Highlander Hybrid. The gas engine is turning on and off all the time and I don't even notice anymore.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: Porter67] #2465166
03/12/18 12:30 PM
03/12/18 12:30 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
7
71birdJ68 Offline OP
master
71birdJ68  Offline OP
master
7

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
Why did I buy it? I never even heard of stop/start until we bought this Jeep. It's not on all of them, it is part of some optional package.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2465189
03/12/18 01:38 PM
03/12/18 01:38 PM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 566
WA
T
tman Offline
mopar
tman  Offline
mopar
T

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 566
WA
More and more cars are coming with the start/stop feature to save fuel I for one hate it. I own an 2017 Audi and they all have it. It is annoying as hell and every once in a while in certain condition, the car does not start up when you want to go. Have to put it in Park and restart. Happened to me once. One thing good about Audi, you can buy an OBD device and customize some of the vehicle programming. One of those things I was able to do is disable the start/stop. It will now remember last position of the start/stop button w/o having to push it every time after a restart.

Think of this too, can you imagine the wear and tear of that starter? Battery/alt wear when car is off, headlights on, heater on, rear window defrost on, wipers on, when car turns off at a traffic light? Battery condition also dictates if the start/stop will activate. If batt is low, engine will stay on during stops or if a/c is on too. At least on my Audi.

So I totally understand OP's distaste of that feature. Friend hates it in his Mercedes too.

Hybrids are a different animal. Im only referring to gas only models.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: tman] #2465193
03/12/18 02:00 PM
03/12/18 02:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
7
71birdJ68 Offline OP
master
71birdJ68  Offline OP
master
7

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,450
Morristown Tn.
Yes, if the battery isn't up all the way it doesn't work, but guess what, this thing has two batteries. I don't know if the non stop/start cars have two or not. And yes I am thinking about the starter, and battery being worked to death.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2465234
03/12/18 03:08 PM
03/12/18 03:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,137
East Aurora (Buffalo) NY
RoadRunner Offline
master
RoadRunner  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,137
East Aurora (Buffalo) NY
A lot of cars with this feature are either using a second electric motor or a different starter that is a permanent magnet, high cycle motor. So wear and tear on starter should be a non issue. Also, as mentioned, I think some cars have dual batteries. I know thought I heard that there is a push to go to 24V and/or 48V electrical systems on cars due to amount of electronics.


68 Road Runner (383/4speed, post car w/decor pkg) - Major Project
69 Road Runner w/472 Hemi & 4 speed.
70 Challenger R/T SE EF8 w/ V9J, U - A32 - Major Project
2023 Ford Mach 1
Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2465266
03/12/18 04:05 PM
03/12/18 04:05 PM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 566
WA
T
tman Offline
mopar
tman  Offline
mopar
T

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 566
WA
I know my Audi has 1 battery and 1 starter. It is 900cca batt. My friends Mercedes has 1 batt and 1 starter. Don't know about the Mopars.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2465335
03/12/18 06:29 PM
03/12/18 06:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,142
Canada -- Posts: 4034 -Registe...
5
5thAve Offline
Doesn't care what this says anyway
5thAve  Offline
Doesn't care what this says anyway
5

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,142
Canada -- Posts: 4034 -Registe...
On cars I've seen with the auto stop/start the owners manual says how to disable it yourself or have the dealer do it through their programming.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2465864
03/13/18 04:43 PM
03/13/18 04:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 586
UP
F
finn Offline
mopar
finn  Offline
mopar
F

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 586
UP
Took me all of thirty seconds to get used to it. Now I sort of like it, as it’s a sort of simple, yet elegant piece of engineering.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: 71birdJ68] #2466068
03/13/18 10:38 PM
03/13/18 10:38 PM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 192
TC, Minnesota
G
Gabmando Offline
member
Gabmando  Offline
member
G

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 192
TC, Minnesota
I too find the start / stop feature very annoying in my 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee. It is standard on the V6 engine for that year.
I dislike it when I get to my destination and the engine stops when I come to a complete stop, then restarts as soon as I put the vehicle in park to shut it off again!.
Vehicle does have an additional battery for the stop / start. Mine was replaced under warranty at the 1 year mark.

Re: Auto Stop/Start [Re: finn] #2466136
03/14/18 12:22 AM
03/14/18 12:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,789
Hamilton, Ontario Canada
Magnum Offline
master
Magnum  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,789
Hamilton, Ontario Canada
Originally Posted By finn
Took me all of thirty seconds to get used to it. Now I sort of like it, as it’s a sort of simple, yet elegant piece of engineering.


Exactly. It is there to save fuel and emissions, take advantage of it.

I do not have Start/Stop but if I'm at a train crossing or stopped to pick somebody up. I turn my engine OFF.


69 Super Bee, 93 Mustang LX, 04 Allure Super
Page 1 of 2 1 2






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1