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John Force another Crash #2457624
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Your thoughts?
I feel bad for J.Linburgh. The team only has 1 race car

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Just saw the video on youtube. What a terrible crash. Everyone got real lucky.


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Learning curve for the GM change over.. Going to use up allot of GM parts... smile
Team went through a boat load of parts in AZ before Pomona....

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Might be the weirdest drag-racing wreck I've ever seen. JFR is really balling up some cars this year.
Seems like there's a lot more engine carnage in the Fuel classes this year as a whole, and it's only 2 races into the season.

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The traction kinda stunk so that leads to more engine carnage


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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
The traction kinda stunk so that leads to more engine carnage
iagree
The left lane was not as good as the right lane, better qualified car gets lane choice work
It is to bad anytime a crash occurs at the races or anywhere else, no matter which team, reason or driver twocents
It was good to see a Force crew and driver win Top fuel though bow up


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Originally Posted By Sammy
Your thoughts?
I feel bad for J.Linburgh. The team only has 1 race car

Me thinks Jim Head has more than one funny car in his stash work
It is really to bad they didn't have a back up car at that race ready to run though whiney

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Re: John Force another Crash [Re: Cab_Burge] #2457811
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Originally Posted By Sammy
Your thoughts?
I feel bad for J.Linburgh. The team only has 1 race car

Me thinks Jim Head has more than one funny car in his stash work
It is really to bad they didn't have a back up car at that race ready to run though whiney


Actually Force still won the round, he crossed the line after he went through the traps. The ladder showed Courtney vs. John in the next round.

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Originally Posted By 65pacecar
Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Originally Posted By Sammy
Your thoughts?
I feel bad for J.Linburgh. The team only has 1 race car

Me thinks Jim Head has more than one funny car in his stash work
It is really to bad they didn't have a back up car at that race ready to run though whiney


Actually Force still won the round, he crossed the line after he went through the traps. The ladder showed Courtney vs. John in the next round.



That's what I was going to say. John F. crossed the center-line after the finish line so John Force won that round. Linburgh got the double wammy.


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Re: John Force another Crash [Re: Sammy] #2457836
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Why so many engine explosions?
That would be my concern.
The guy seems to be dangerous lately.

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5 car bodies(6 counting Linburghs) untold numbers of parts two trips to the hospital and all in 10 runs. Force has quite a season going so far for sure.


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Re: John Force another Crash [Re: Cab_Burge] #2457862
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Originally Posted By Sammy
Your thoughts?
I feel bad for J.Linburgh. The team only has 1 race car

Me thinks Jim Head has more than one funny car in his stash work
It is really to bad they didn't have a back up car at that race ready to run though whiney


According to Linburgh in his interview it was the only car they had.

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I am sure JFR will lend them one of their spares...LOL


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Originally Posted By 70AARcuda
I am sure JFR will lend them one of their spares...LOL


Do they have any to lend at this point?!


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Originally Posted By 70AARcuda
I am sure JFR will lend them one of their spares...LOL



Robert Hight said the linburgh car was an old JFR car. Sounded like JFR was going to get them another car in some way.
If I was force I would have a new crew chief before vegas.

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I think I heard them say on All Access that they put a rev limiter on their engines to keep the speed down. Number one I don't think its helping with the 337 MPH they ran this weekend.And number 2 I think there are better ways to go about this. Those cars are pumping a lot of fuel on the top end.


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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I think I heard them say on All Access that they put a rev limiter on their engines to keep the speed down. Number one I don't think its helping with the 337 MPH they ran this weekend.And number 2 I think there are better ways to go about this. Those cars are pumping a lot of fuel on the top end.



Both FC and TF have had limiters for a few years, but the limits were different between the two classes. At the end of last year nhra changed the rules and now both classes have the same limit, 7900 rpm. FC was 7750 rpm before the rule change.

http://competitionplus.com/drag-racing/n...c-class-in-2018



Nhra needs to do something to slow FC cars down. Way too much engine carnage. The drivers will either end up broke or dead.
Del worsham was trying out a third parachute to help stop his car in phoenix.


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They also said the chutes are getting beat up bad so he added the third chute to maybe help out on this issue. The day that Jim Head quits or retires the sport is gong to take a big hit. He loves engineering and he’s the go to guy for a lot of these teams. As far as slowing down the cars NHRA is their own enemy. Carbon fiber, titanium, and magnesium parts make the good teams better and the bad teams broke.


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Re: John Force another Crash [Re: Sammy] #2458044
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I think its time for John to retire before he gets seriously hurt or hurts
somebody else, seems to be having issues keeping it together or in his own lane,dont he have enough Wallys, really!! tired of the Force / Schumacher show,
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Re: John Force another Crash [Re: racerhog] #2458049
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Originally Posted By racerhog
Learning curve for the GM change over.. Going to use up allot of GM parts... smile
Team went through a boat load of parts in AZ before Pomona....


Only way they're going to hurt any GM parts is if the Suburban breaks down on the way to the hotel. The only thing the GM change over involved was slapping Chevrolet stickers on the valve covers.


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I read somewhere that a new design on the billet intake may be part of the Engine explosions this season, very expensive and only a few teams have started using them, probably Force and Schumacher mainly. Not sure if its true or not.

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NHRA limits the mag's to 44 amps, as part of an effort to slow them down for safety. With out more spark, it's hard to light the immense load of fuel. So when it doesn't light, there is no combustion pressure to blow all the fuel out of the cylinder. Fuel builds up, it hydro locks, and boom! So the safety rules helps them blow up and crash. They all want to win really bad, they are on the edge with their tune ups. Throw more fuel at it, make more power, have a chance to win, and a chance to blow up. Or cut back the fuel load, make less power and lose. Tuff choices.


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BTW, the Rev limiters are not like our msd's that cut cylinders. That would be an instant bomb. They only cut back the timing when they reach the rev limit.


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I am sure it is the CHEVROLET script on the Hemi valve covers making the engine explode... flame


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"IF" funny's and TF cars were running the 1/4, what would the ET's and speeds be ? [i'm not too good at this math conversion. biggrin] thanks !
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Do they even run a different engine? I figured it was basically all the same, just a different body.


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Originally Posted By Silver70
Do they even run a different engine? I figured it was basically all the same, just a different body.
iagree scope


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Originally Posted By CMcAllister
Originally Posted By racerhog
Learning curve for the GM change over.. Going to use up allot of GM parts... smile
Team went through a boat load of parts in AZ before Pomona....


Only way they're going to hurt any GM parts is if the Suburban breaks down on the way to the hotel. The only thing the GM change over involved was slapping Chevrolet stickers on the valve covers.


haha Too true.


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