1968 Charger w/ 6.1L, 6 speed, and RMS AlterKtion/4link
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This last summer (2017), I was finally able to lock up a deal on a 1968 Dodge Charger that I've been chasing for about 2.5 years. It's not a rare Charger, but it was quite solid and I just fell in love with it. This is the first picture of it that I saw: The guy I bought it from lives about 15 miles from me but he kept the Charger on an out of state property. After about a year of talking about it I was able to schedule an in person inspection on a weekend, but he wasn't excited about selling. About a year later he had to move his cars back to Kansas so the car became a lot easier to see and drop in to chat... After another 6 months I came across a car that he really wanted so we were able to work a trade. I was super happy to finally get the deal done. My intent is to keep this car simple (yeah right) and have a rough and tumble car I can enjoy but we will see if that can be accomplished. "Hello, My name is Kelsey and I struggle with scope creep." The early plans are for a 6.1, an A518 automatic transmission, and possible a Dana 60....since I have a rebuilt Dana sitting in the corner of the shop.
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1970 Barracuda B5 6.1 Hemi/6 speed 1969 Charger survivor in R6 383/727-wrecked 12/24/18 1968 Charger in original burgundy paint "Ribeye" 1968 Charger w/ 6.1L, TR-6060, 9" 1968 Roadrunner w/ 6.1L/6 speed 2011 Dodge Ram w/ 6.7L
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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1970 Barracuda B5 6.1 Hemi/6 speed 1969 Charger survivor in R6 383/727-wrecked 12/24/18 1968 Charger in original burgundy paint "Ribeye" 1968 Charger w/ 6.1L, TR-6060, 9" 1968 Roadrunner w/ 6.1L/6 speed 2011 Dodge Ram w/ 6.7L
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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The paint on this car is a real patchwork job. It was originally red, and then was painted blue. Then someone sprayed yellow on multiple surfaces but not the whole car. The engine bay is black. The front fenders were originally metallic bronze so they've obviously been replaced. At first all the colors bothered me. It has grown on me a lot, but not enough to keep it that way. I started stripping the top coats to get it down to the original red paint at least. I'm not sure where I'm going with the color yet, but I don't want to spend a ton on body work and paint. I'll figure that out later..... The engine bay:
1970 Barracuda B5 6.1 Hemi/6 speed 1969 Charger survivor in R6 383/727-wrecked 12/24/18 1968 Charger in original burgundy paint "Ribeye" 1968 Charger w/ 6.1L, TR-6060, 9" 1968 Roadrunner w/ 6.1L/6 speed 2011 Dodge Ram w/ 6.7L
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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I got on craigslist and bought this A518 transmission from a 1991 Dodge ram. I looked for a 1990-1991 A518 because they did not have lockout. Also, the 727 converters can be used with the A518 and 6.1L because the forward half of the case is identical to a 727, which was the 3 speed automatic. However, the A518 has a .69 overdrive ratio. I paid all of $100 for the core A518. I went after it with solvent and a couple wire brushes. it's not quite done in this picture, but you get the idea...
1970 Barracuda B5 6.1 Hemi/6 speed 1969 Charger survivor in R6 383/727-wrecked 12/24/18 1968 Charger in original burgundy paint "Ribeye" 1968 Charger w/ 6.1L, TR-6060, 9" 1968 Roadrunner w/ 6.1L/6 speed 2011 Dodge Ram w/ 6.7L
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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I ordered up a rebuild kit from Transtar for $215 and took the transmission over to a buddy (GY3 here on Moparts), who is really good with the 727. Mark is the man! He pulled it all apart and the transmission was remarkably clean. The fluid was bright red, free of any debris, and smelled good. In fact, none of the parts had been cleaned or even wiped down when these 2 pictures were taken. The clutches were not discolored at all. I also called A&A Transmission and I ordered a manual valve body.
1970 Barracuda B5 6.1 Hemi/6 speed 1969 Charger survivor in R6 383/727-wrecked 12/24/18 1968 Charger in original burgundy paint "Ribeye" 1968 Charger w/ 6.1L, TR-6060, 9" 1968 Roadrunner w/ 6.1L/6 speed 2011 Dodge Ram w/ 6.7L
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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A518 Update: A port had to be tapped, threaded, for a plug that came with the A&A manual valve body kit. You can see the plug in the middle of this picture Clutch packs stacked and loaded... I upgraded to the billet servo design. All done! I picked the transmission up today
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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That 518 was like wrestling a bear compared to a 727! No joke-that thing is HEAVY! Thanks again Mark!
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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I wire wheeled the top surface on the cabin frame rail channels. Then I tackled the trunk floor It's kind of fun to see the progress...and the scrap metal pile.
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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I knew the driver's side rocker was bad but I didn't think it was as bad as it was. When I first brought it home it had a hole in the rocker about the size of a half dollar. When I cleaned the car off with the power washer, it punched a hole in the driver's rocker that was bigger then a baseball. I was planning on replacing the outer rocker, but once opened up, it needed to all come out...I just made a call to AMD to get the inner rocker coming my way.
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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It always requires more sheetmetal then expected. I was hoping to save the dutchman panel but it had several deep dents in it, rust in the channel (between the dutchman's panel and package tray), and a deep dent in the trunk gutter lip that bowed the dutchman's panel. So, out came the dutchman's panel. The trunk floor was welded in and the rest of the quarter panels were removed. I am very impressed with how solid/clean the quarter panel and roof structure are. And finally, the cabin floor pans have been channeled for the subframe connector rails and welded in.
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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Wow, had not seen the car taken down this far!
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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Lots of work going on there.
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Lots of work going on there. Thanks! Windshield wiper motor notch is gone...
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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The wheel houses were done very nicely. See a lot of guys doing it but cutting the piece all to sh it and welding pieces here and there to make it work.
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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The wheel houses were done very nicely. See a lot of guys doing it but cutting the piece all to sh it and welding pieces here and there to make it work. Thanks!
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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Firewall is in place...also the 6.4L BGE Hemi and the TR6060 were mated and installed for mockup of the transmission crossmember. A front lower radiator support was built since I'm not a fan of some of the other aftermarket offerings. It's got a pocket on the passenger side to account for the vintage air conditioning condenser/hard lines.
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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Thank you! Time to get back on this Charger. Doors are coming off first to rebuild the door hinges....
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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So because you pie cut the quarter you were not able to weld the valance corner along the flange right?
So where is the valance corner plug welded? just along the top and at the bottom?
Your work looks great!
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Do you have any more pics showing how you got the end caps to fit? Did you slice the quarters?
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No slicing. Slowly heated up the metal and manipulated/tapped from the backside. Be sure to frequently check the cap fitment as you go
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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The hood was just epoxied with Nason...nothing fancy
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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This is going to sound a bit silly, but the car looks longer to me without it's trim, handles, and in polished metal. I thought the same thing. The back sure does. Killer stance and wheel- tire combo without going overboard and looking cartoonish.
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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This is going to sound a bit silly, but the car looks longer to me without it's trim, handles, and in polished metal. I thought the same thing. The back sure does. Killer stance and wheel- tire combo without going overboard and looking cartoonish. Yeah-I thought the same thing. I think it's mostly the lower stance??? THe funny thing is I bought the wheels and tires a few years ago since they were a good deal...but I didn't really like them. The longer they are on the car, the more I like them!
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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Cool! Starting to look like a car again!
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Great looking lead work. I need a little tutilidge on this so I can do my mine.
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Re: Rough & tumble 68 Charger-6.1L and A518
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Wow, that's looking awesome!
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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