Re: Any good vac advance 440 distribs for street strip?
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I have a full mechanical advance distributor now but was thinking about trying one with vac advance for better street manners. It would also need to be compatible with an MSD 6 box. What's out there that isn't a shiny piece of junk? Did Firecore ever get the bugs worked out with theirs? Why not use the factory electronic? That's all I've ever used with an MSD.
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Any good vac advance 440 distribs for street strip?
[Re: PorkyPig]
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02/20/18 06:20 PM
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crabman173
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E-Berg has taken the new china housings and added quality guts with correct for many--curve--if you have a wild cam etc then an FBO plate in one of those makes it right on the $$ I have been using them and have been impressed with what you get for what you pay and--they come with cap and rotor so No they are not just a proform deal his site or ad tells the exact curve numbers
To me it looks like the best bet overall and I have bought a pile of them
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Re: Any good vac advance 440 distribs for street strip?
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02/20/18 09:07 PM
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RapidRobert
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Yes that $22 FBO plate is a Godsend (& well worth the money). I'd get a 440 electronic dist from a yard & tune it yourself (initial w vac gauge method/total 36-38 for starters/spring combo/then plug in/adj the can (if used). they have minimal wear (once points went away) but Ebergs' dist I'm sure would be a premium unit, not sure how much he wants for one tho.
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Re: Any good vac advance 440 distribs for street strip?
[Re: PorkyPig]
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02/20/18 09:22 PM
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crabman173
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Just over a hundo with shipping and cap and rotor--a no brainer but be careful--i mentioned I had a dragster with a Chevy engine have not heard a word from him since LOL
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Re: Any good vac advance 440 distribs for street strip?
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but be careful--i mentioned I had a dragster with a Chevy engine have not heard a word from him since LOL I'm good so far tho I did start out in chebby land till I bought my first Mopar in 1974, a '68 GTX 440 4 speed 4:10 dana CONVERTIBLE for $500 that hooked me for life.
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Re: Any good vac advance 440 distribs for street strip?
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This thread reminded me that I have one of those FBO disc & spring kits... somewhere. I looked for it last night, but could only find the distributor for which I'd intended to use it. I HATE when I lose sh!t that I KNOW I should be able to locate. EDIT: Found the disc kit and the AR Engineering multi-slot phaseable reluctor I bought from GregZ at Carlisle many years ago...
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Re: Any good vac advance 440 distribs for street strip?
[Re: PorkyPig]
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02/22/18 02:07 PM
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most if not all of em will take a 3/32" allen wrench in the nipple for the RATE. CCW slows the rate amount from an amount of in hg to get the adv to kick in/get started & you can solder slivers of feeler gauge on either side of the arm so the notch will reach the end of its travel sooner or drill a mini hole in the arm & add a horizontle pin to limit the TOTAL. I would suggest dialing in the initial/total/springs before even plugging in the can. Rotor phasing may have been causing the issue as opposed to too much timing added from the can. A hand held vacuum pump is a good tool when working with this. I would reduce the lower shaft axial clearance to .005" (speedway mtrs has a good kit of FLAT shims for $10). check lower tang to intergear notch for rotational play (want near zero), by twisting the rotor back & forth slightly (just not enough to get into the springs) & get the NAPA Echlin MO3000 rotor with a .060" longer blade ($8.xx out the door) or drill out the rivet & make your own. get a brown or black cap with BRASS terminals.
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Re: Any good vac advance 440 distribs for street strip?
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... get the NAPA Echlin MO3000 rotor with a .060" longer blade ($8.xx out the door) or drill out the rivet & make your own. get a brown or black cap with BRASS terminals. Funny you mention the cap and the rotor blade length, since I also found a new Blue Streak cap & rotor set w/ those other parts. The cap has brass terminals, but I looked at the rotor blade and thought to myself: "Isn't that kind of short compared to what I've used before?" Guess it's not my imagination... I'll have to see if the local NAPA folks need to special order that part #, or by some LONG SHOT actually have one in stock.
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Re: Any good vac advance 440 distribs for street strip?
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Comp Cams/FAST has some new distributors on the market. Ready-to-run or ones that require a "box".
The ready-to-run have an adjustable mechanical and vacuum advance.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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