A1 performance converters
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is anyone using a converter from these guys ? seem pretty reasonable . how close are their verters ? buying from Australia means I need to hit it first time .
Tex
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Re: A1 performance converters
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12/15/17 05:54 AM
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Yes Adam and Allan Bowdish Looks like a 8" 5300 stall recommendation. Marginally bigger than my 9 1/2" 5000 stall Bite the bullet tomorrow i guess
Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.32 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: A1 performance converters
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12/17/17 02:39 PM
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Friends with Adam and he and Alan are very knowledgeable. Just about every Comp car out there with an Auto runs A1 stuff. Most important thing for any converter guy is accurate Dyno numbers from a known dyno. otherwise it is always going to be their best assessment on what you need.... -
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Re: A1 performance converters
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12/17/17 03:17 PM
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I have a 5300 stall 8" spragless A1 in my Rocky, Awesome converter, it is very consistent and I'm really just still scratching the surface of what I can do with it. I would really need wheelie bars to really wring-out my Rocky combo now but it would go sub 10.50's for sure if I could actually stand on the gas on the 2 step off the line.
I bought it used off of memeber Mshred a couple years ago, he had a very similar motor to mine in just a tad heavier A body so I knew it would be a good fit.
There's an In-car vid of it in my Sig
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Re: A1 performance converters
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thanks again guys yes I ordered a new vert Friday your time .turn around time sounds good , 12-14 days incl delivery . great for me if this works . after talking to Adam he is going to go a 8"with a bit higher stall - 5500 up from my 5/5100 9 1/2" . Al ,no engine dyno just chassis and track times says should be faster and a bit more consistant, I hope so he also had thoughts on maybe short shifting 1-2 and holding the 2-3 a little longer
Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.32 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: A1 performance converters
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12/18/17 02:36 AM
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Well contrary to the last post they are in most of the fastest Comp and Super Stock stuff out there as well as many Stockers that run fast. SO I think they have a pretty good handle on what they are doing.
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Short shift 1-2 sounds like Adams advice for sure. Did he also want to lower your launch RPM Al , only ever run footbrake before . So no idea of launch rpm , aiming for around 3500 which will be about a 1000rpm higher than footbraking Fred here in Sydney who put the trans together uses A1 for na cars , said Adam hits it well . Will certainly be a new experiance . Unfortunately will only have 1 or 2 test hitouts before the new season starts in February Streetwize mine will have a diode unit Tex
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New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.32 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: A1 performance converters
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12/18/17 11:31 AM
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IMO different converter companies seem to have their "specialty" areas. I think high RPM HP stuff A1 is hands down the best choice. I think for stocker stuff ATI is on point more often than not. For the throttle stop stuff ATI and FTI both seem to do very well. Big power adder stuff seems to be the converter of choice there is Neal Chance.
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Re: A1 performance converters
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counting down the days . Ian , will do . With no Calder in January now it will be tough without track time . Thanks Al
Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.32 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive
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IMO different converter companies seem to have their "specialty" areas. I think high RPM HP stuff A1 is hands down the best choice. I think for stocker stuff ATI is on point more often than not. For the throttle stop stuff ATI and FTI both seem to do very well. Big power adder stuff seems to be the converter of choice there is Neal Chance. Al so who would you recommend for a bottom bulb bracket car 750 hp low 9s in 1/4? I currently have an ATI 8" 5500. Seems to do ok? I am questioning the rpm drop of 750 rpm on my 6800 rpm shifts? 2850 lbs with me in it. 14x32, torqueflite with std ratios. 4.3 rear. Thanks, Don
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Don, FWIW I have been a HUGE ATI fan over the years. But the last two we have gotten from FTI were dead nuts on and repeat like crazy, so I would give them a shout.
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Greg and the guys at FTI have been very good to us. Their stuff has worked flawlessly and I have been nothing but impressed with them to this point. We have one of their Level 4 glides in the dragster behind a variety of engines and it has worked flawlessly. They have built three converters for it as well, with engines from 650-1000hp and they have all worked flawlessly and been spot on where we wanted them. They have had great shift recovery and been very efficient and repeat like a Xerox machine. I have been an ATI customer for years and always been happy, but decided to give FTI a shot and not regretted that for one minute. Here is a link to their site. They have a facebook page and sponsor forums on DRR as well http://ftiperformance.com/main.sc
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They do Ferd and Mopar stuff to. Just give them a call...
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Don, FWIW I have been a HUGE ATI fan over the years. But the last two we have gotten from FTI were dead nuts on and repeat like crazy, so I would give them a shout. Thanks Al, I have the ATI 8" in my 451 ci 666 hp and and my 493 ci 760 hp, it was restalled for the bigger, more torque 493. My biggest concern is the rpm only drops about 750 rpm on the shifts! This seems too tight? I was told that the more times a converter is cut open the more the tolerances change from the width of the cut. Wouldn't a converter company put a new cover if this was the second or third time it was cut? I also have a Winter's 8" for the 451 ci, it works the same as the 8" ATI did on that engine. Thanks for your your help Al. Don
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12/26/17 04:58 PM
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is anyone using a converter from these guys ? seem pretty reasonable . how close are their verters ? buying from Australia means I need to hit it first time .
Tex Tex sorry for hijacking your post. Happy new year and good luck with the new convertor! Let us know how it does, it will be 2 more months (april) after you run before I will get on a track. Don
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The closure weld is on the outside of the front cover to impeller. This just holds the two together.
Once cut open, - if done properly - the weld is cleaned up without affecting the register which is on the inside of the front cover.
In a production environment (Reman, etc.) it is common to take too much off if you work too quick - then you have to weld a "wedding ring" on the front cover to make up for all the metal taken away.
As for tolerances - if you mean stator end play - that is taken up by thrust washers and needle bearings which are selectable to maintain the proper end play.
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is anyone using a converter from these guys ? seem pretty reasonable . how close are their verters ? buying from Australia means I need to hit it first time .
Tex Tex sorry for hijacking your post. Happy new year and good luck with the new convertor! Let us know how it does, it will be 2 more months (april) after you run before I will get on a track. Don no worries Don . We are all here to try and learn . i'd like to be running down a track 2nd week of January , see how it goes . may have to refit footbrake trans in a pinch Happy new year Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.32 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive
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