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#2413238 - 12/04/17 05:52 PM The Pro Stock circus continues
pittsburghracer Offline
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#2413246 - 12/04/17 06:18 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: pittsburghracer]
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Used to be my favorite class.....Now its Promod and I am sure they will screw that up.
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#2413253 - 12/04/17 06:27 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: pittsburghracer]
Dave Hall Offline
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It's a good idea. Cunningham, Patrick and those Ford guys can run cool looking Mustangs and be competitive. Same with Kramer and guys running Darts. Makes more money for the GM engine guys as they will have engines in everything. Racing is racing. This allows everyone with a pocketbook to be competitive and race the brand car that they want. The only thing that I'm sure will absolutely DESTROY my love for it is when someone shows up in a Camry.

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#2413286 - 12/04/17 07:18 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: pittsburghracer]
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A high dollar Comp eliminator. The same guys will still dominate, there will be no difference. The cars/engines are close now......AJ''s Dodges are within a half a tenth of the leaders. The problem is the cars are too refined, they don't make a bad run. So, it might as well light years. The days of someone coming out of the middle of the pack, even though it's within a few hundredths, and winning on a hole shot, or because someone misses a shift or even a shift point, are over. The cars are like watching robots. Not even fun to watch.
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#2413291 - 12/04/17 07:31 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: Steve1118]
Locomotion Offline
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Registered: 01/19/03
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Loc: Florida
puke
I guess to the "average" spectator, it doesn't matter. As long as it goes fast and makes a lot of noise. Gotta hand it to Allen Johnson. He maintained brand loyalty and purity to the end, despite the odds.
Pro Stock - the original "factory hot rods" RIP. It's where the FS cars should be.

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#2413304 - 12/04/17 07:58 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: pittsburghracer]
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I'm guessing no one had a problem when pro stock allowed the use of the hemi in a duster......
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#2413321 - 12/04/17 08:36 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: Spaceman Spiff]
cudaman1969 Offline
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Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
I'm guessing no one had a problem when pro stock allowed the use of the hemi in a duster......

Well golly, I thought the Hemi was a Plymouth engine! And Vegas came with small blocks, who would of thought

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#2413323 - 12/04/17 08:38 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: Spaceman Spiff]
actionange Offline
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Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
I'm guessing no one had a problem when pro stock allowed the use of the hemi in a duster......


Or a Boss 429 in a Maverick...
Really???

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#2413326 - 12/04/17 08:50 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: pittsburghracer]
Chris2581 Offline


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Loc: Jacksonville, FL
Now the class will be boring .
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#2413331 - 12/04/17 08:54 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: pittsburghracer]
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It's all a ruse to get Toyota into the class.

What a joke.
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#2413357 - 12/04/17 09:49 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: Locomotion]
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Originally Posted By Locomotion
puke
I guess to the "average" spectator, it doesn't matter. As long as it goes fast and makes a lot of noise. Gotta hand it to Allen Johnson. He maintained brand loyalty and purity to the end, despite the odds.
Pro Stock - the original "factory hot rods" RIP. It's where the FS cars should be.


iagree

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#2413367 - 12/04/17 10:12 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: madscientist]
LA360 Offline
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Originally Posted By madscientist
It's all a ruse to get Toyota into the class.

What a joke.


Yep!
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#2413408 - 12/04/17 11:18 PM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: pittsburghracer]
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Well, the Fuel classes all run what still looks like a Gen 2 Hemi, so I guess the GM-ish engines in all the PS cars is about the same logic.
That aero reference is because the PS bodies are approved in a standardized form, which is why they look Pro-Mod-ish.
ProStock's gravestone will read "1970-2017".

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#2413437 - 12/05/17 12:02 AM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: pittsburghracer]
rowin4 Offline
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I was watching Jay Leno's garage awhile back. He went for a drive in a I believe a Score [ Toyota ] off road race truck. The owner said it was powered by a Toyota engine that could run 10,000 RPM's all day . Maybe the Chevy's will be taking a break from the winners circle or there will be a lot of toyota engines in Chevys.
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#2413444 - 12/05/17 12:17 AM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: rowin4]
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Originally Posted By rowin4
I was watching Jay Leno's garage awhile back. He went for a drive in a I believe a Score [ Toyota ] off road race truck. The owner said it was powered by a Toyota engine that could run 10,000 RPM's all day . Maybe the Chevy's will be taking a break from the winners circle or there will be a lot of toyota engines in Chevys.



Those Toyotas are not Toyotas. They are an amalgamation of the Chevy and dodge engines.
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#2413448 - 12/05/17 12:25 AM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: pittsburghracer]
rowin4 Offline
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Why doesn't NHRA do a spinoff of pro stock and call it PS/C similar to our SS class SS /H for the old HEMI cars. It's all Chevy anyway.
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#2413528 - 12/05/17 09:54 AM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: pittsburghracer]
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Here comes Toyota..This is not new news per se'. The word of this coming has been floating around most of last year.
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#2413560 - 12/05/17 11:01 AM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: Al_Alguire]
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Great more uninformed people on the planet (or the same amount with with more ammo).......I can hear them now boy those Toyota's really run. Just another reduction to the intelligence for the almighty dollar. I have good friend that swears that Top fuel engines are Chevy because of the advertising on the body. Even after showing him the pics of that teams engine. Ever listen to stock car racing fans talk about their favorite Ford, Chevy, or Toyota. Exactly why I haven't watched any professional racing on TV for almost 2 decades. Heck I usually don't even read these post about them. I would love to watch some bracket, sportsman, or swamp-buggy racing any day. But for some reason they won't show that. Man I miss Sundays with Diamond P sports on TNN bawling . I know times have changed.....

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#2413567 - 12/05/17 11:25 AM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: B1MAXX]
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Quick Question,

Will a a mid 60's iron 396 Chevy head or Crank still physically bolt into a DRCE motor?
I believe an original 66 Hemi head or crank will still drop into a modern top fuel block. to me that is the Litmus test. if they hybrid P/S it is no longer a valid class, it's basically a homogenized heads-up comp eliminator class with spec engines...what could be more boring.

I suppose the goal to the NHRA is the perception of diversity, I wouldn't be suprised if there aren't 'back-door' incentives to rebody your Camaro to a dodge or a Mustang...that might actually appeal to the Summit or Jegs teams.

Brand loyalty has almost completely vanished from motorsports, sadly it's all about the show anymore. It means no more than the corporate "Stadium Naming" in the NFL. Things that mattered to older generations for the most part were not passed down to younger generations. Maybe if we had all the distractions and diversions in our day that kids have today we would at least be able to understand it better.
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#2413572 - 12/05/17 11:32 AM Re: The Pro Stock circus continues [Re: pittsburghracer]
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The teams are the ones that asked for this. What it does, is allow teams to choose what engine, in what aero package ( body) they think will work best.
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