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Re: The good, bad, and ugly...deep oil pans for a 440 [Re: phantomx] #240977
03/04/09 02:25 AM
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I think that is a stock pan. Or at least a reproduction of a stock pan.

Re: The good, bad, and ugly...deep oil pans for a 440 [Re: AndyF] #240978
03/04/09 10:37 AM
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Here is a rarity, a 8 quart C-body pan:
http://kuvablogi.com/nayta/277324/
good for low 8 second ET's.


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Re: The good, bad, and ugly...deep oil pans for a 440 [Re: jyrki] #240979
03/04/09 06:03 PM
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How about ugly!
This pan ran aground at the Syracuse Nationals a few years back while driving through a construction zone on the way back to the hotel. A quick repair in the parking lot with some jb weld and duct tape and was able to drive back to Rochester. It now is on the wall of my garage.
Jim

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Re: The good, bad, and ugly...deep oil pans for a 440 [Re: 1fastrunner] #240980
03/05/09 12:30 AM
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I dont have a decent picture but when I did the motor for the practice car for the NASCAR RETURNS TO LEMANS project(Christophe Schwartz and friends)because the car was a road racer and many of its miles would be on normal streets but under racing circumstances i didnt want a pan hanging down so i would get a phone call in the middle of the night. (Halfe mich, Don). I bought a Hemi repo pan brand new. I bought two 45 dergee bends of 2 1/2 inch od exhaust tubing. I sliced the bends so they fit on the side of the hemi pan but no longer than the sump. I made a large window in each side of the pan, flush at the bottom and then welded the slices of the bends on. I made sure the oil could get in an out easily but still had some baffeling at the ends. I cleaned it till i had nighmares about it and when i was satisfied I painted it and installed it with the Mopar windage tray. The block which is a 400 I had redrilled for a hemi pick up but I used the crooked short one from MP. Not the long straight one. It worked out perfect and has stood 3 years of abuse in Europe. It fits the stock chassis (72 Charger. ) and holds 7 QTZ. It meets the critieria of a Qt of oil for every 1000 RPM. That is my rule of thumb since I cammed this engine to make all its power under 6500 because if you dont finish you cant win. I think I would make myself one sometime for my max wedge car as well. I like the idea of having the extra capacity , having it stored away from the spinning crank and having no worries about hiting anything wth the oil pan no matter what happens.In my cruiser a 63 Dodge max Wedge 426 I have a homebuilt hanging down about 1 inch. It wuld be nice to have the same volume with out the worry of wacking the pan on something or hitting something left on the road like a big chunk of firewood or even a big racoon.
Don

Re: The good, bad, and ugly...deep oil pans for a 440 [Re: Flite_727] #240981
03/05/09 01:05 AM
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since we're all posting pics., does anyone have a good pic. of what the "hinge" side of a trap door system looks like? (sorry for the hijack)




Sorry no pic but its nothing trick, a few holes on
the wall that goes across the pan then on the rear
side of the wall is just a flat plate with a wire
for a top hinge. The plate lays flush against the wall
to seal off the holes when the oil sloshes forward
on braking , swings open on acceleration

Re: The good, bad, and ugly...deep oil pans for a 440 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #240982
03/05/09 08:12 PM
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Quote:

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since we're all posting pics., does anyone have a good pic. of what the "hinge" side of a trap door system looks like? (sorry for the hijack)




Sorry no pic but its nothing trick, a few holes on
the wall that goes across the pan then on the rear
side of the wall is just a flat plate with a wire
for a top hinge. The plate lays flush against the wall
to seal off the holes when the oil sloshes forward
on braking , swings open on acceleration




well, what i was really curious about, was if there's a stop of some sort to keep the trap door from going past 90*. i would think that it would be a nessisity(sp) to keep the door from being held open by oil sloshing back towards the front.


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Re: The good, bad, and ugly...deep oil pans for a 440 [Re: phantomx] #240983
03/05/09 11:47 PM
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I had a 7 quart Milodin on my 440 in a 67 b-body and it would hit the roll-face curb in my driveway. If I had to do it over, I would go with the stock 6 quart hemi pan. Mine is now an 1 1/4" shorter and no more problems.

Re: The good, bad, and ugly...deep oil pans for a 440 [Re: Flite_727] #240984
03/06/09 12:11 AM
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Quote:

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since we're all posting pics., does anyone have a good pic. of what the "hinge" side of a trap door system looks like? (sorry for the hijack)




Sorry no pic but its nothing trick, a few holes on
the wall that goes across the pan then on the rear
side of the wall is just a flat plate with a wire
for a top hinge. The plate lays flush against the wall
to seal off the holes when the oil sloshes forward
on braking , swings open on acceleration




well, what i was really curious about, was if there's a stop of some sort to keep the trap door from going past 90*. i would think that it would be a nessisity(sp) to keep the door from being held open by oil sloshing back towards the front.




Yes. Mine has the hinge pin that extends out and is bent such that it only allows it to open so far. I do not have a picture of it.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: The good, bad, and ugly...deep oil pans for a 440 [Re: Dragula] #240985
03/06/09 12:24 AM
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I had Scott Brown make a custom one to my design. Nice thick rail. Fairly shallow, big kickout and olds 12 qts. Doesn't hang down much more them the midplate. It's got a built in windage tray, trap doors and a oil scraper.






Jim

Re: The good, bad, and ugly...deep oil pans for a 440 [Re: Bigcube] #240986
03/21/09 10:01 AM
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That is saaaweet! What did that run you? I also found a pick of one showing billet rails as I had specified on my order, so either Scott Brown gets my next order or Billet fabrication...


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: The good, bad, and ugly...deep oil pans for a 440 [Re: Dragula] #240987
03/21/09 10:17 AM
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Yes. Mine has the hinge pin that extends out and is bent such that it only allows it to open so far. I do not have a picture of it.




Thats all I do, just bend the hinge wire so that one
end of the wire is on the bulkhead wall and the other
end stops the door at about 80* open... nothing fancy

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