For all the engine builders here.

If someone walked into your shop, requesting a reliable, coast-to-coast, EFI pump gas engine that makes a minimum of 700hp; what would your estimate be? Is anyone here truly saying that they could build any Chrysler engine that makes over 700hp, providing a 3/yr warranty, utilizing -all new- parts, for under $15,000? Really doubt it.

Yes, it's an astronomical cost up-front, but genuinely, most of us have $10,000+ in 40-year old blocks getting 10mpg on 93-octane. This is a drop in the bucket for someone looking for tier-1 reliability, versatility, and performance from a proven oem application. Not only that, there is no way you could lose even a penny on the resale market in terms of the upgrade.

6.2 Hellcat engine is a bargain, here is the GM equivalent;
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/nal-1...AiABEgJnLfD_BwE

LOL, for once we can get something for less than the Chevy guys!

All your other points are very well taken as well.

Bill

The Hellcat does look like a better deal, the LS9 says it has 638HP.

I have that much or more into my 446 EFI build, and I LITERALLY built the computer for it.


There honestly isn't much sense in building anything B, or RB related in my mind any longer.

I will say one thing this post is doing. Members on Moparts that hardly ever post are posting up. That’s a good thing

Looks like the LS9 is an aluminum block. I'd be nice if the hellcat was aluminum also. The blower and air-to-water cooler adds quite a bit of weight. Still has to be lighter then a NA gen 2 hemi. I think $15K is pretty reasonable as well.

everyone throwing away there junk big blocks I will pick up for free

Just so you guys know I checked and both the engines and the harness are in stock, in quantity. Ordered a harness and it only took about three days to get.....

I will let my EFI Built 440 go to you for the bargain sum of $14,000.




(Honestly in MOPAR B/RB world, that would be a great deal!)

Well! Noticed this after I've put a large deposit on a big inch motor. lol Looks like a pretty good deal to me.

Heard from a local follow who's been working on a late G3 Hemi (none Hellcat) install over the last few yrs saying his required some fire wall cutting on his E-body. Figured the same would be so for a B-body,...would that be correct?

They fit in an A-body without firewall cutting so I wouldn't think it would be a problem.

They come with a 50.00 shoehorn option just in case it’s a little tight

The hellcat blower itself will call for some butchery of the firewall due to the intercooler piping exiting from the back of the blower.

A definite game changer for sure.

Here is another pretty wicked option available now. Crate Gen III 426 hemi from Edelbrock. More money than the Hellcat engine, but makes 101 more HP. $27 K, pocket change.

https://www.speedlogixstore.com/product-p/46126.htm

808 HP AND 762 FT-LBS TORQUE

Now you can get a complete 426 c.i.d. E-Force supercharged, Gen III HEMI® engine, that produces an astounding 808 horsepower and 762 ft-lbs. of torque for your Mopar. The foundation of this engine is a brand new iron Mopar 392 block with a forged and balanced Manley crankshaft, forged Manley H-Beam connecting rods and Manley forged aluminum pistons. The 4.090" bore and 4.050" stroke help this HEMI produce incredible low end torque. The 9.9:1 compression ratio allows for safe and reliable supercharged performance on 93 octane pump gas.


Helping this engine breathe is the Edelbrock E-Force supercharger system featuring Eaton’s TVS R2650 rotors, which provide unparalleled efficiency, whisper quiet operation and OEM reliability. This engine package comes complete with essential supercharger kit components, such as the electric intercooler water pump, intercooler plumbing, intercooler recovery tank, as well as fuel rails, fuel injectors, coils, mass air flow sensor (MAFS) housing and re-usable air filter. The supercharger equipped on this engine features a driver’s side throttle body orientation for ease of intake routing. Pair with universal heat exchangers for a complete installation.


The Edelbrock Gen III HEMI® 426 Long-Block #46125 is the base for the E-Force Supercharged crate engine, but is also a great starting point for any high horsepower forced induction Mopar build. Its compact design allows for a seamless swap into most platforms; eliminating the need for modifications to your engine bay or hood.


SPECIFICATIONS

Displacement: 426 c.i.d. (4.090" bore x 4.050" stroke)
Rods: Forged H-Beam
Camshaft: Comp Cams 226°/234°, .619/.612, 116 LSA
Horsepower: 808
Torque: 762
Rocker Arms: Mopar OEM
Compression: 9.9:1
Induction: E-Force R2650 Supercharger System
Block: New Iron Mopar 392
Cylinder Heads: Edelbrock Performer RPM #61099
Crankshaft: Forged 4340
Finish: Black Powder Coated Pistons:
Forged Aluminum - 5cc
Warranty: 2-year / Unlimited mileage
Includes Engine Accessory Kit

Important Installation Notes: This engine will require an EFI compatible fuel delivery system with a minimum pressure of 75 gph @ 60 PSI. Fuel pressure regulator with boost reference is required. Top of supercharger measures 20.74" from crank centerline.

Good on Edelbrock, not cheap though. I think Ebrocks use the Eaton TVS blower pack

Few photos of the Edelbrock 426 c.i.d. E-Force supercharged, Gen III HEMI® engine, shown at the 2017 SEMA show. Cool day and age we live in, just need lots of money to play.

Two words never used in the same sentence, Hemi and cheap.

Here's what it cost a youtuber to put his hellcat Charger into the 9's

Ran 9.80 but I am pretty sure its the same mod list everyone else does that runs mid 9's

Deduct the car / drivetrain upgrades and think what that would do in something 1000+lbs lighter. Hellcrate already comes with the unlocked PCM included, so deduct that too.

the eddy crate is almost double of the hellcat crate and don't be fooled by the hellcats 707hp rating some of em make that to the wheels stock.its pretty cool thats its available and I'm sure it will make more torque but for double the money you could do a pulley change for under a grand and make 100+hp more.