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Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: Al_Alguire] #2431282
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Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
I spray them with copper coat and use them. Yes you need to take them apart to clean them properly


I cleaned mine thoroughly but never use copper coat. I think you will be happier with the Cometics.


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Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: BradH] #2431341
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I don't think I would try and separate the MLS gaskets. Also I prefer High Temp 1200 or 1500 Aluminum ceramic paint.

But in your case, with the stock coating flaking off, done/gone get rid of them.

Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: BradH] #2431557
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You drill out a rivet, not like its complicated. I would NEVER reuse thme without cleaning them. Only way to clean them properly is to drill out the rivet and separate them to clean them. Maybe its the difference between compression ratios above 15-1 but I have NEVER had an issue taking them apart and cleaning them, then using copper coat on the outer layers. I've never used a Mr Gasket or anyone else's MLS gasket except Cometic. But they will tell you to either NOT reuse them or to wipe em off and never use anything.


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Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: Al_Alguire] #2431583
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Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
You drill out a rivet, not like its complicated. I would NEVER reuse thme without cleaning them. Only way to clean them properly is to drill out the rivet and separate them to clean them. Maybe its the difference between compression ratios above 15-1 but I have NEVER had an issue taking them apart and cleaning them, then using copper coat on the outer layers. I've never used a Mr Gasket or anyone else's MLS gasket except Cometic. But they will tell you to either NOT reuse them or to wipe em off and never use anything.




Heck I had to drill out 3 rivots and cut part of the gasket on my Keith Black block and B1 head combo. No big deal. The rivets wouldn't let my head seat properly.


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Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: BradH] #2431598
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I just use new gaskets whenever I pull the heads off. Easier that way....

Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: pittsburghracer] #2431599
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
You drill out a rivet, not like its complicated. I would NEVER reuse thme without cleaning them. Only way to clean them properly is to drill out the rivet and separate them to clean them. Maybe its the difference between compression ratios above 15-1 but I have NEVER had an issue taking them apart and cleaning them, then using copper coat on the outer layers. I've never used a Mr Gasket or anyone else's MLS gasket except Cometic. But they will tell you to either NOT reuse them or to wipe em off and never use anything.




Heck I had to drill out 3 rivots and cut part of the gasket on my Keith Black block and B1 head combo. No big deal. The rivets wouldn't let my head seat properly.


Same with me, so you're basically there already up

Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: BradH] #2431600
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Yeah the rivets on the Cometics get in the way of MOST Mopar heads. I have none on any B1 stuff or the Predators.


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Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: BradH] #2431607
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We just put a small counterbore in the head or the block to clear the rivets. Then we never have to drill out the rivets.

Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: BradH] #2431626
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Originally Posted By BradH
... I'm not sure that those Mr. Gasket MLS head gaskets actually sealed properly. I can't put my finger on it, but I think it's because they both looked kind of wet (coolant seepage?), which didn't seem normal to me.

Additional evidence that the Mr G. MLS gaskets weren't sealing properly: Half of the cylinders have corrosion in the bores where the moisture collected above the ring lands on the outside walls while the pistons remained in the same position for weeks after the dyno session.

NOT impressed. puke

Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: BradH] #2431709
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I tried the MR Gasket MLS gaskets once and then went back to Cometic. It also helps that I get a nice discount from Cometic. Mr Gasket is such a big company they don't care about little guys like me.

Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: AndyF] #2431738
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Mr. Gasket use to have their MLS gaskets made here in the U.S., not any more now that there made in China work
I have reused the Cometic dry as well as coated with Copper Coat, they worked both ways with no issues that I saw shruggy


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Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: AndyF] #2431798
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Originally Posted By AndyF
I just use new gaskets whenever I pull the heads off. Easier that way....

I've never re-used a head gasket before. The Mr. G's were new and they simply didn't seal properly.

I may consider some new Cometics, or save my money and use one of my remaining sets of the discontinued orange DG gaskets I mentioned previously. The only real issue I had w/ those is they're a big PITA to clean off the heads & block when disassembled... but they sure as He11 didn't leak.

Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: Cab_Burge] #2431799
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Mr. Gasket use to have their MLS gaskets made here in the U.S., not any more now that there made in China work

Guess I must have purchased Chi-Com-etics. eyes

Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: BradH] #2431809
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I think it was around three or four years ago that one of the Mr. Gasket manufacturer reps. told me that they had quit making those MLS head gasket here in the U.S., this was after I called them about having to wait 2 to 3 weeks to get them from Summit shruggy


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Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: BradH] #2431883
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Originally Posted By BradH
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... I'm not sure that those Mr. Gasket MLS head gaskets actually sealed properly. I can't put my finger on it, but I think it's because they both looked kind of wet (coolant seepage?), which didn't seem normal to me.

Additional evidence that the Mr G. MLS gaskets weren't sealing properly: Half of the cylinders have corrosion in the bores where the moisture collected above the ring lands on the outside walls while the pistons remained in the same position for weeks after the dyno session.

NOT impressed. puke


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Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: Al_Alguire] #2431914
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""Only way to clean them properly is to drill out the rivet and separate them to clean them.""

When doing this, I am assuming that you have to reassemble them on the same head and in the same order? Is this correct?

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Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: YO7_A66] #2431943
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I bought a set of Mr Gasket mls gaskets from Jegs once and they came in a Cometic package cardboard insert, with a Mr Gasket sticker on them, that must of been their once upon a time american supplier before they went with wang chung gasket company.


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Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: dartman366] #2432625
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Originally Posted By dartman366
I bought a set of Mr Gasket mls gaskets from Jegs once and they came in a Cometic package cardboard insert, with a Mr Gasket sticker on them, that must of been their once upon a time american supplier before they went with wang chung gasket company.

That's my understanding as well.

Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: BradH] #2467048
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I bought some Mr Gasket MLS gaskets in the summer of 2014 and they looked just like some Cometic 340 gaskets I have. I just had one start to leak coolant (I never re-torqued them) I removed the bolts one at a time in order and lubed the threads and re-torqued them one by one and it stopped leaking. up

Re: (Re)coating MLS gaskets prior to reuse [Re: BradH] #2467242
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With a quality fastener like ARP you can go 5 or 10 more # in tq to help stop any leaks so going from 70# to 80 would be ok.


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