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Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: BradH] #2387263
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Originally Posted By BradH
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There is nothing it doesnt like with radials. No bias tires for me ever again

As long as the track(s) where you go prep reasonably well, you're good. The ones that don't will bring out a radial's evil twin,, "Slippy".


99% of my racing will be at either US131 or Norwalk. Both are excellent facilities/ tracks that always have hook.


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Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2387268
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Originally Posted By 70dusterjohn
Call M/T ... The reason the radial PRO was design was for marginal tracks ... they took the feed back from the racers and designed a tire that just flat out works if you go to a track that is just not prepped at all yes you will have a problem.


I think I still have some shock tuning to do with mine, the few times it has spun on a marginal track it has hooked first then lost it shortly into the run.(I log driveshaft RPM so its easy to see)


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Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: B3422W5] #2387279
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Congrats on another set of new bests! Your progress has been a blast to watch. I just turned 50 and after a bit of a break am deeper into this sport than ever. Old dog, maybe. New tricks - heck yeah!

Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: B3422W5] #2387282
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I have had shock issues but not tire issues.. I have a race pack in the car under the dash . So I see drive shaft speed as well a put a go pro under the car pointed at the shocks so I'm Standing them up next year and getting better stocks to control the rear .. I'm as tight as I can go and it wants more .. so that's my winter upgrade well one of them.. lol

Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: B3422W5] #2387289
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I had a thought to try shifting it at 6500 last night just for the heck of it instead of 6000, where i currently shift it at but never ended up trying it.
My hope is not leaning on it will help this thing live a happy life. Next year when i get it back in good air i will try it though just to see.

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69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: B3422W5] #2387304
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That's great Don! This year was my first time trying the 275 drag radial and I also loved them. up Car just goes straight with no movement or drama like slicks normally do.

You made some huge improvements already. And it's really cool that your brother has my father-in-law's old Dart now. punkrocka


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Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: B3422W5] #2387306
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That is really great on two counts, 1st it's flying for what it is and 2nd, you have the itch again............. beer thumbs


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Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: ProSport] #2387307
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A good Friend of mine recently tried the new 14 inch radial (I think Pro Bracket) instead of 14 inch slicks on his camero that runs 9.50's and picked up .20 in the 1/4 mile. Needless to say he loves them.


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Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: B3422W5] #2387317
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I agree. A good prep on the track and they are killer. A so so prep and bias is your friend.


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Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: Wookie316] #2387468
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Good to see you back at it and tweeking impressive results from very little. Nice work Don, congrats.

Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: HardcoreB] #2387470
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Originally Posted By HardcoreB
Good to see you back at it and tweeking impressive results from very little. Nice work Don, congrats.


Thanks brother. Thats really nice what you said.
Most of the credit for this thing picking up like it has goes to my local buddy scottb, and Dwayne Porter.
They have made sure i dont have to do things twice. Really cant wait to get going on the visual/ safety and mechanical improvements i want to do over the winter.
Re-doing cage and interior tidying up first.


69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: B3422W5] #2387564
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Originally Posted By B3422W5
Originally Posted By HardcoreB
Good to see you back at it and tweeking impressive results from very little. Nice work Don, congrats.


Thanks brother. Thats really nice what you said.
Most of the credit for this thing picking up like it has goes to my local buddy scottb, and Dwayne Porter.
They have made sure i dont have to do things twice. Really cant wait to get going on the visual/ safety and mechanical improvements i want to do over the winter.
Re-doing cage and interior tidying up first.



Hmmmm so maybe next year you will be part of an 11.00 index race shruggy

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Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: max_maniac] #2387567
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Originally Posted By max_maniac
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Originally Posted By HardcoreB
Good to see you back at it and tweeking impressive results from very little. Nice work Don, congrats.


Thanks brother. Thats really nice what you said.
Most of the credit for this thing picking up like it has goes to my local buddy scottb, and Dwayne Porter.
They have made sure i dont have to do things twice. Really cant wait to get going on the visual/ safety and mechanical improvements i want to do over the winter.
Re-doing cage and interior tidying up first.



Hmmmm so maybe next year you will be part of an 11.00 index race shruggy

whistling



Haha..... no, it will stay 11.50


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: B3422W5] #2387644
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You've got me beat! But at least I can still out sixty foot you for now, ha ha.

Nice work! It's fun watching your progress on this car.

I did the opposite...I went from years of racing on radials to bias ply. It was a learning curve for sure. But now I can actually hook up better at Milan than at Norwalk with them?

Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: B3422W5] #2387743
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I run MT 325's on my Dart, if the track is good their great, if the track is marginal they suck. Most tracks around here don't spend much time on prep so I put a CRT trans brake that can leave in first or second in my transmission.
I accidentally left in second one time, with the two step at 2500 it sounded like a loaded dump truck taking off, it still went 1.51 60' though.

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Very cool!
Some pretty good air later in the night, Went from ~1400' to ~950' by 8-9pm

I am heading to Milan tomorrow for the last runs of the season...we should see some sub 1000' air, hopefully the track will hold...


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Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: B3422W5] #2388654
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Very nice Don, congrats! I love seeing the progress you've made w/ this car. You know what it takes to go fast and it's nice seeing the changes you've made to it really show up on the timeslip. Those radials will spoil you on a good track!


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Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: OUTLAWD] #2388829
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Originally Posted By OUTLAWD
Very cool!
Some pretty good air later in the night, Went from ~1400' to ~950' by 8-9pm

I am heading to Milan tomorrow for the last runs of the season...we should see some sub 1000' air, hopefully the track will hold...


We'll be at Milan tomorrow too, testing a 750 Holley vs. a 950.

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Didn't it go 12's the first time out?

Just proves what some careful tweaking can be worth.


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Re: Swapping to drag radials today, test tonight [Re: dustergirl340] #2388890
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Originally Posted By dustergirl340
I did the opposite...I went from years of racing on radials to bias ply. It was a learning curve for sure. But now I can actually hook up better at Milan than at Norwalk with them?


Milan is a special case...haha
I believe the 60' beams are suspect...Somehow I have better short times at Milan, even though the track prep is normally worse. I am not the only one with similar results, a couple friends run points there and have said the same thing compared to other tracks in the area.



Originally Posted By dustergirl340

We'll be at Milan tomorrow too, testing a 750 Holley vs. a 950.


I'll be there in a 66 Plymouth Belv.
Need any jets/bleeds? I have 2 950 HPs on the shelf, always picked up from 750 to 950


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