Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
[Re: 493_DART]
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318 will blow away a 4.7 in pulling. Empty they run about the same except you got to turn a few more RPM but when they are loaded the 4.7 got no nuts. I have had many of both trucks and towed with most every one of them. The 4.7 engine issues far outweight the 5.2 trans issues.
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
[Re: 493_DART]
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10/09/17 05:21 PM
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My current 2011 ram 5.7 is the best towing vehicle I have ever driven including souped up 12V stinkys and a couple 24V stinkys. It needs a few more RPM but so what, 300,000 and the motor looks new inside except a worn out cam lobe and that is still cheaper than diesel fuel injection pump, or decent injectors or many other expensive diesel issues.
My 2011 Hemi ram gets the same MPG as my 07 4.7 dakota (actually better when towing). The 4.7 V8 and near twin 3.7 V6 are the reason the dakota (as a new truck) no longer exists. Word spread about what a pile of garbage they were and sales went through the floor, that and the butt ugly styling.
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
[Re: 493_DART]
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10/10/17 01:59 AM
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Does the 5.7 hemi have any common issues? Some have the infamous "Hemi Tick" where it has what sounds like a sticky lifter. I have 294,000 on my 2007 and it had the tick for awhile but it stopped about 50,000 miles ago. The 4.7 is a 287 cubic inch engine. The quad cab trucks are 5000 lbs in 2wd form, add 4wd and you are at 5200. The EFI helps but it is still cubically challenged.
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
[Re: 493_DART]
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10/10/17 02:32 AM
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Its a nightmare finding a decent truck within my budget.
Drove a 04 Hemi ram today...rusted to hell with 158k on it.. Well, what's your budget? Know where there's an '07 Hemi Sport with 9,800 miles on it. Obviously, no rust and not abused. It's expensive, but you get what you pay for.
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
[Re: Grizzly]
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10/10/17 04:54 PM
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Its a nightmare finding a decent truck within my budget.
Drove a 04 Hemi ram today...rusted to hell with 158k on it.. Well, what's your budget? Know where there's an '07 Hemi Sport with 9,800 miles on it. Obviously, no rust and not abused. It's expensive, but you get what you pay for. 6K
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
[Re: 493_DART]
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10/10/17 10:59 PM
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Does the 5.7 hemi have any common issues? Some of them have had issues dropping valve seats. Not overly common, but still happens.
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
[Re: 493_DART]
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10/11/17 05:09 PM
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just bought an 04 quad cab / 4wd 5.7 for $4500 ! Good move! What gear? They run ok with 3:55's, but 3:92's really help with towing. Congrats on the purchase.
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
[Re: 493_DART]
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10/11/17 10:57 PM
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not sure on the gear--doesnt feel low like a 392 , its got the Tow Mode button
I dig the truck--its got the usual rust over the wheels and rockers..but runs/ drives perfect . Loaded with leather int.
SO--how hard are the plugs to change ? The drivers side looks fun......
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
[Re: 493_DART]
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10/12/17 03:13 PM
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There is one down the street from me at a lot for $3000 that matches that description, I am trying to figure out how to get the cash to buy it, don't know why.
The plugs are not as hard as they look once your in there doing them. 2.5 hours is average book time and I had no problem doing my first set in 1.5 hours, got em down to about an hour now useing air ratchets and such for speeding up turning all the little bolts. I can't remember what year they got rid of the stupid plug wires going under the intake, my tip on those is to pull the wires all out and just loop em all back to where one coil fires both plugs on one cylinder, they run a hair smoother firing both plugs on power stroke and the next plug change is waaay easier. Don't forget to zip tie em out of the way of moving parts like steering shaft and hot exhaust parts. You can also buy the short jacobs wires to make it clean and neat. An even cleaner way to do it is to buy a set of the later coils and matching valve covers and get adapters for the primary plug-in.
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
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10/12/17 10:14 PM
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well a 318/360 won't get out of it's own way compared to a 5.7/6.4. 5.2/5.9 conjurs up thoughts of blown plenum gaskets, cracked heads, bad mpg and lethargic performance at best (in magnum form). Carb form you just have to look at the trucks they're in.... Hemi's not a bad mill to work on. They definitely come in much nicer packages. I think the benefits definitely outweigh the negatives. I've seen bunches of old pickups with 5.7's pushing 250K miles.
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
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10/15/17 12:41 PM
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My 5.7 uses about a quart every 3000 miles. Not the end of the world. Plug changes aren't that bad either, just have to find the right length socket and extension combo for the back two cylinders on the driver's side near the master cylinder and brake booster.
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
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10/18/17 11:51 AM
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I wouldn't do either of them with the automatic. No low end power in them, at least with the stick they stupid things aren't shifting all over the place at every .5% grade or gust of wind. Seen one too many blown up Hemi's due to valve train problems you never saw this with a 318-360 One guy down the street from me has a blown up Daytona another guy I know has spent several thousand on repairs to his 5.7 what about the 6.4's When the 4.7's started to get old, I saw way more blown up 4.7 engines than I ever did 5.2/5.9 magnums. Now the Hemis are starting to look the same way. I would really like to find a 5.2/5.9 truck with a stick shift 4x4. With the 5.9's you almost have to undo the death flash to get it back up to par. My buddy used to have a low mile 02 2500 long box quad cab with the v10, 4x4 and stick. Was a real nice truck until he started having the usual v10 troubles with it and got rid of it. One like his but with a magnum v8 would be about the perfect truck for me.
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Re: Dodge 4.7 --towing?
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10/18/17 12:58 PM
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There's a custom-built 5.9/nv3500/sct-tuned 4x4 reg cab sb available right now for $5000 obo if you want Daytona. pm me if you are interested. *Edit* Snooze you Loser: She sold it for $2800. Only had 95,000 miles and no rust. I didn't have room for it, still waiting for an 8 foot 5 speed.
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