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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2377032
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just to keep this up top, FMJ, have you re-done any of the spaghetti under the dash ? if you have, sorry i missed it, and how much was saved there ?
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Sadly enough, I have not. It will be this Winters project for sure as i am doing a few things along those lines. I will post up all of the weight from the extra wires for everyone to see and take in.
Keep posted.

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I shaved quite a bit of weight from under the dash in both wiring and brackets plus removing ALL of the ducting for the heating and air stuff. I need to weigh mine soon to verify the end results..........Here's to the longest post on here and maybe anywhere with tons of valuable info and some sweet/clean n mean cars n trucks.......... boogie penguin beer drive apimp


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My car isn't exactly sweet, but it is BITTER.
It isn't clean because it plays DIRTY and it's not mean enough because it's not LEAN enough. LOL.
Wow! a toast to you Thumper for getting us all in on the confessions. The Holy water boils. LOL.

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Love it and never imagined it would blossom into this........Did you get Eric's carb up and running........... beer


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FYI Paint is HEAVY. A lot more than many people think for sure. My new car gained 74lbs with paint and clear. Keep it simple to keep the weight down. Choose a solid color and single stage to keep weight down.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: moparx] #2377422
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Originally Posted By moparx
just to keep this up top, FMJ, have you re-done any of the spaghetti under the dash ? if you have, sorry i missed it, and how much was saved there ?
beer


I was on him for that a while back. wave

See my post # 2196716, (about 20 pages ago!) from when I removed a bunch of stuff under the dash and weighed it. "Non-essential" wiring came in around 4 lbs.


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Yes, he received the carb and excited to install it, but both of us have had no time to get together and fire it up.
I guess I should retrieve some time and lay off this site for a NY minute and install it and tweak it for him. LOL.
Will let you know as soon as we do. I'm sure that it is going to run top notch razor sharp. Thank you.
PS: Do you tweak 6ix pack carbs? Might have a customer for you.

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Your right Al, paint is heavy. From the start, my car has always been a single stage black. When I shoot it again with the new doors, it will get sanded back to the metal and painted with the same concept single stage.
The doors were stripped down to their respective Alcoa bare skins as shown in many pages back and primed with Epoxy primer to seal 'em and keep the coats down. Lots of sanding in between. The Palm Reader is a mad man for perfection and loves to apply coats of anything and everything and then sand it all down again. Sometimes 5 times over. His Bee's Wax project car has been sanded hundreds of times already.
I'm sick of sand paper. LOL.

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Not only is the weight of the wires tossing me in my sleep, the wires look like the internals of a Mobsters stomach after a dinner with the boyz. LOL.
I hate messy under dashes. This winter, it will be finished along with another long awaited light trick being applied.
In theory, I might only shave a couple of pounds off or less being that my car is a no frills car from the factory anyway, so not many wires hanging around after all.

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Cool let me know how it works out Lee but no, I never messed w/the 6-pack stuff but believe someone or two on here are top notch w/those....... thumbs


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Originally Posted By RMCHRGR
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just to keep this up top, FMJ, have you re-done any of the spaghetti under the dash ? if you have, sorry i missed it, and how much was saved there ?
beer


I was on him for that a while back. wave

See my post # 2196716, (about 20 pages ago!) from when I removed a bunch of stuff under the dash and weighed it. "Non-essential" wiring came in around 4 lbs.


i'm a fan of orderly wiring, and over the 50+ years of playing with these pain-in-the-azz four wheeled time wasters, [instead of playing with something else.....] i have had to constantly repair wiring nightmares and melt downs. i don't want to see lee's valiant, and ingenious, efforts go "poof", or up in smoke [not the movie]. if i lived closer, i would do it for him in gratitude for this post going as it has become !
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MoparX, Thank you for your generous offer, but don't get your wires crossed LOL.
Trust me, You are 100% right, I feel the same as you do and will make it a priority this Winter to untangle the spaghetti web under there. Don't wanna get caught in the tomato sauce. LOL.

Over the years and contrary to my clean work ethics, just wanting to get to the water box has made for some haste waste with the wires. It's in that water box when it starts to boil that a faulty screwed up wire can make spaghetti out of all your efforts.
I'm going clean.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2377674
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Whenever you're ready, I'll come down with some snippers and shrink tubing and we'll get dirty...

wait... that doesn't sound quite right... blush


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ooooohhh, I'm excited. LOL.

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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
ooooohhh, I'm excited. LOL.

up film at 11 ? [biggrin devil]
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LOL.

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See below for how I approached my wiring. It's a Ron Francis "Bare Bonz" fuse panel.

They advertise it as a a 'race car' deal but there are provisions for regular pass car stuff like lights, turn signals etc.

It's pretty basic stuff, nothing like in the Yellow Bullet wiring thread.

The main benefit of this type of panel is that it allows you to have only whats needed. The other benefit is there winds up being little in the way of excess wiring since you can tailor the lengths and routing as you wish. I've taken enough OE harnesses apart to know that there is a bunch of excess wire because of structural obstacles, layout, moving parts/heat and other equipment. It all adds up.

The main drawback is figuring out how to adapt it to our cars since it's a generic (read - brand X) scheme. Nothing matches up so there is a little thought involved. I made it twice as difficult for myself by trying to use as much of the OE wiring a possible. You could get a generic wring kit to make it work which would probably be easiest. Honestly, re-engineering my under dash wiring has been a real P.I.T.A.

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Seems like it may be a hornets nest, but it does look simple. Does that replace the classic Mopar junction box that sits under the dash?

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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
Seems like it may be a hornets nest, but it does look simple. Does that replace the classic Mopar junction box that sits under the dash?


Yep!

It's all contained in the one panel. What's nice is that all the relays are in one spot. Don't know about your Coronet but on my Duster there is a bunch of extra wire that serves the various relay junctions which are all over the place - both kick panels, dash, firewall, etc.

Is it worth doing it this way? I dunno, depends how involved you want to get. Once I started taking wires out, it became evident I would need to use something like this. It's really tedious to re configure all the dash wiring, better to start from scratch.

Most of these older cars need to be re-wired anyway. When you start taking apart connectors and stuff you will wonder how you never burned the car to the ground.


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