Hello. I was wondering about approximately how many hours of labour would be needed to replace the rear channel, the Dutchman panel, and the patches in the corners of a 1970 B-body? And to repaint corner panels and the roof.

More than 15 hours of labor for me. Probably more. I spent a lot of time trimming and fitting. This is not a rush job. I replaced both lower rear window corners, welded new metal to the front part of dutchman. I also made the inner corners, which was easy. The inner corners is what the outer lower rear corners sit on. The original interior rear package tray metal was perfect.
Those repairs take a long time because you need to match up the curves and the body seam areas at the same time.
Go on the site called For B bodies only and you will see that work I did.
Beleive it or not I have an original Motors labor guide that shows labor
time for the dutchman area. Have to look it up.

Here is the link to a very similar repair. GMP440 are my posts.
This will give you a good idea on what you need to do.
http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/69-rr-b-body-rear-window-corner-repair.119437/

I am just trying to get an idea how much this job is going to cost me. My guy wants to put the corner pieces in, the Dutchman panel, the package tray supports, and the window supports. Also, I guess the paint work. Just want to get a fair price idea. Thanks for the help.

These pictures in the updated posts are shown.

Just saw your pics.
You definetely need to fabricate a section of metal for the top of the package tray so the top of the package tray supports the bottom of that front dutchman strip. Also, get the right and left outer lower window corners. It has nice corner channels you can use.
Do you know how much more rot under the paint there is?
The outer areas look good.
The labor rates are going to be anywhere from $90 to $110 per hour. Might be more in your area.
Just looked at the Motors Repair guide.
Prime and repaint for roof is 4.8 hrs. ( Does not include working out dents, etc.) Also, add time to blend the paint with the rest of the body.
Rear window frame is 1.5 hrs.
No labor listing for dutchman.
A lot of time is taken to get everything in alignment.
I fit the glass as I went along. I must have fitted it 5 times.
Keep in mind; does the body man have to fabricate pieces that are not
reproduced? That equals more labor time.
To get a better idea of repair costs you need to have body shop give you an estimate. Did your bodyman give you a price?

On this side of PA it's more like half that.

Thank you for the help. My problem is I am still waiting for an estimate from my bodyguy for my car. I am just wondering if it would be more cost effective if I replaced the package tray. Or is the package tray a separate part from the channel? All the parts I need I can get. He wouldn't need to fabricate anything.

Check out the AMD site. That package tray appears to not have that metal coming up to meet with the bottom of the dutchman panel channel.

Im going to go out on a limb here. And say IF your body man actually does give you an estimate. Chances are it will be an open ended estimate.

Any good metal man knows , rust spreads. Once you open it up this WILL get worst. Been there , done that

Im not a body man, but Ive done enough body work to know 15 hours isn't going to be even close to fixing this. Let alone paint work included.
One thing Ive learned working for myself and on old cars, the labor and time guides are useless. There's no such thing as flat rate on old cars. At least not in my world
just my

Here is a link to a dutchman panel repair. You'll see in the pics how the dutchman sits on the metal coming from the rear package tray. That part is even a separate piece that is welded onto the rear of the package tray.

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/mopp-0712...-dutchman-panel

gtx6970 posted:
"Im not a body man, but Ive done enough body work to know 15 hours isn't going to be even close to fixing this. Let alone paint work included."

That 15 hours or more was a very rough estimate I gave on how long it took me to do the job. That's was just a base to start with. Took me a long time to complete the job. I did this job over the course of a few months.
I do agree that that his body man may end up giving an open ended estimate.

I know it is not going to be a cheap repair. I was just trying to get an idea of how much it would cost and the likely hours of labor. I was wondering if it would be less than forty hours. And I was going to pay for parts. I was always told to get a start date and an expectant end date with the estimate. My bodyguy is on vacation at the moment. Thanks everyone for your help.

Definetley more than 40 hours, plus the cost of parts. Remember, a lot of labor hours is spent test fitting, trimming, grinding , smoothing.
Keep in mind, this is a very intricate, precise welding project that
you will be doing. Has your bodyman done these type of welding projects before?
How much are you willing to spend to do this?

Agreed,

I know I wouldn't do it for 40 hours. Throw in all kinds of compound curves on top of fitting repop parts isnt fun.

If I had to make a guess. And figuring paint work in. I would say it'll be closer to 100 if not over. I'd bet money it gets worst once you get the really visible stuff out of the way.

Rust repair sucks.

I wish I can be exact on the number of hours it took me. I spent a good 6 to 8 months doing the repair. I did my own welding. I took my time on this. I am very happy the way it turned out.

Hi GTX6970. I don't want to sound stupid but is that for over a hundred hours on quarter panels because when my bodyguy looked at my car he seemed to think the patches would be fine. He looked from underneath the trunk. I am just trying to get an idea. And I really appreciate the information and help from you and GMP440. Thanks.

No idea. I haven't kept track of labor for individual hours / areas.
This car has had A LOT of sheetmetal replaced. Once Im done with it( here very soon ) I'll add up the total labor hours.

If I had to put a guess on your repair. I think 40-50 is reasonable. Your talking about a lot of hand fitting. Possibly some fab work for areas/sections not avail in the aftermkt

The paint work required is going to depend a lot on the type of paint on it now. If its base clear, it'll be reasonably easier to blend in. Single stage ,,,not so much

Have you made any progress on the dutchman and lower window corner repairs?