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Lisk's Challenger is for sale #2362859
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Saw on another site that Lisk's Challenger is on the block. Be a really cool piece of history to own. drool


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Who is Lisk? What year and type is the car and its history? confused


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Steve Lisk. Pretty well known street race car from the Detroit area I believe, back in the '70s. Had a hemi and a Lenco that ran mid 9s.

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I had that Hot Rod article hanging on the wall for a long time. One of the baddest street cars ever built. Would be fun to own that car and cruise thru the Nats with it. Or take it on power tour or something. People would go nuts to see that car out driving around. Everyone who read Hot Rod in the 70's knows that car.

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I'd love to buy it and put a 455 Buick in it.... stirthepot


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put a Buick motor in it!!! why would you want it to go slower????

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I wonder if that's Steff's old car? He started out with a B 1 in it???

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Originally Posted By dwayne welder
I wonder if that's Steff's old car? He started out with a B 1 in it???


This car was built in the '70s and has been owned by the same guy for 20+ years.


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Re: Lisk's Challenger is for sale [Re: dwayne welder] #2362916
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Originally Posted By dwayne welder
I wonder if that's Steff's old car? He started out with a B 1 in it???



Not same car.
This car has sat since early 90's per current owner, and was repainted orange w white RT stripes.
Current owner wants 90k, not an original hemi car, was 383 car.

Somehow I never saw this car in person at races or on street, maybe at autorama, can't remember.
I first heard of the car thru the magazine article.
Too bad I didn't win the lottery last week, or this car would be in my garage.
I saw it for sale last night on the Milan buy n sell facebook page.

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Originally Posted By slantzilla
Originally Posted By dwayne welder
I wonder if that's Steff's old car? He started out with a B 1 in it???


This car was built in the '70s and has been owned by the same guy for 20+ years.




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Re: Lisk's Challenger is for sale [Re: moetown] #2362931
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A friend of mine bought the car minus engine and trans from Steve in the late 70's. He made some changes to it and then it sat for awhile. I don't remember who he sold It to. May be the current owner.

Be aware that years later I got a phone call from someone in Texas that was trying to clone his car to look as much like steves as possible so there may be a car out there somewhere that looks more like steves car than what the real one does.


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Did Mike Fons build the car for Lisk?
Since the original hemi & Lenco are gone, whats in it now?

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Originally Posted By RTSE4ME
Did Mike Fons build the car for Lisk?
Since the original hemi & Lenco are gone, whats in it now?

Yes mike fons built it. When I asked why the ladder bars were so short I was told that the car was built with parts scavenged from a wrecked hemi colt. No idea what engine and trans are in it now. I think I remember that steves brother wound up with the hemi and lenco.


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This fires up the storm about who owns the original "Bullet" and who owns its rightful original drive train.

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A friend of mine owned this car in the 90's. Is there a link to the ad?

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I know the car & have seen it around here & there over the years. Autorama, Woodward etc. Cool piece of 70's history. I have an article around somewhere of this car up against Jack Roush's old Street version of his Pro Stock Mustang II.


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Re: Lisk's Challenger is for sale [Re: AndyF] #2363450
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Originally Posted By AndyF
I had that Hot Rod article hanging on the wall for a long time. One of the baddest street cars ever built. Would be fun to own that car and cruise thru the Nats with it. Or take it on power tour or something. People would go nuts to see that car out driving around. Everyone who read Hot Rod in the 70's knows that car.

This is the one I remember:


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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
This fires up the storm about who owns the original "Bullet" and who owns its rightful original drive train.


I have read in alot of places that nobody owns the original bullet cars and both cars (Mustang & Charger)were both destroyed a long time ago and that any around today are just fakes.

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Originally Posted By BigHemiVegas
Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
This fires up the storm about who owns the original "Bullet" and who owns its rightful original drive train.


I have read in alot of places that nobody owns the original bullet cars and both cars (Mustang & Charger)were both destroyed a long time ago and that any around today are just fakes.

I believe FMJ is refering to the famous Silver Bullet not the movie Bullit.

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Thanks for the link and the pictures. I will forward them to the former owner.

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Originally Posted By GomangoCuda

I believe FMJ is refering to the famous Silver Bullet not the movie Bullit.


x2. The Silver Bullet original car is owned by Harold Sullivan in the Detroit area. The original engine is owned by somebody Downriver if I remember correctly, and is installed in a Silver Bullet clone.


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Is the Silver Bullet the Mustang TWO that was a top end road racer (start racing at a over 40 MPH roll on a freeway in Detroit featured in one of the mid 1970s magazines?
460 Ford powered is what I remember now, not a 351 Cleveland motor tsk


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Correct, I was talking about the Jimmy Addison owned 67' Silver Bullet from Detroit.
I've also heard of another car, a Charger I believe driven by a cat named "Cheater".

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Originally Posted By slantzilla
Saw on another site that Lisk's Challenger is on the block. Be a really cool piece of history to own. drool


Link?


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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Who is Lisk? What year and type is the car and its history? confused


Really, Cab? Didn't read Hot Rod much, I guess. wink biggrin J/K, Cab.
I think Lisks Challenger started my dreams of owning an E-body. boogie
I second the notion that if I had won (or might still wink ) the lottery, that car would be mine. drool
Wasn't Fons involved in a black Hemi Volare build after Lisks car that was quicker than the Challenger? work



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The name Lisk didn't ring any bells for me, but I do remember that car.

I always thought that was a real cool car.


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Originally Posted By I_bleed_MOPAR
Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Who is Lisk? What year and type is the car and its history? confused


Really, Cab? Didn't read Hot Rod much, I guess. wink biggrin J/K, Cab.
I think Lisks Challenger started my dreams of owning an E-body. boogie
I second the notion that if I had won (or might still wink ) the lottery, that car would be mine. drool

Wasn't Fons involved in a black Hemi Volare build after Lisks car that was quicker than the Challenger? work
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Can't remember if fons was involved, But I think he was.
The black volare, I think was also a hemi/lenco car. It was in several magazines also.

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There may have been 2 Volares, or the one in question was rebuilt once. I remember the Van Smith '77 from Detroit, it was black with a bunch of purple anodized parts on it, was built by Steve Grebeck, and had a B1 motor in it with a lenco if I remember right.


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Originally Posted By Blusmbl
There may have been 2 Volares, or the one in question was rebuilt once. I remember the Van Smith '77 from Detroit, it was black with a bunch of purple anodized parts on it, was built by Steve Grebeck, and had a B1 motor in it with a lenco if I remember right.



2 different cars or original was rebuilt. The other black volare predates grebeck by at least 10 years. I think the other one had a gold anodized interior.

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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
The name Lisk didn't ring any bells for me, but I do remember that car.

I always thought that was a real cool car.


I also remember it well, IIRC, isn't this THE car that started the whole "Pro-Street" craze of the late 70's/early 80's?


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Originally Posted By I_bleed_MOPAR
Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Who is Lisk? What year and type is the car and its history? confused


Really, Cab? Didn't read Hot Rod much, I guess. wink biggrin J/K, Cab.
I think Lisks Challenger started my dreams of owning an E-body. boogie
I second the notion that if I had won (or might still wink ) the lottery, that car would be mine. drool
Wasn't Fons involved in a black Hemi Volare build after Lisks car that was quicker than the Challenger? work



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I found out over the years that a lot of the writers for the car magazines didn't know the difference between a torque wrench and a camshaft shock shruggy
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My message is I don't subscribe to any magazines now, hands on learning is way better than reading a article written by someone who is not a car guy shruggy work

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So, does it still have a lenco or what?

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Pretty sure it has a 727 in it now.


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Originally Posted By AndyF
Everyone who read Hot Rod in the 70's knows that car.

Too true! Even as a teenager over in England I knew that car, I think that started my love of Challengers thumbs

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I witnessed Steve Lisk make a run at Milan Dragway back in the mid 1970's, he ran 9.70 @ 140 MPH...unlike todays "Grudge" racers his et was known to everyone. I think he was running some spray during that run as well. Cool car for sure!

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Still being talked about 40 years later...

I saw it out there...

Thee absolute baddest street car I ever laid eyes on, bar none...


I hope someone with the means returns it to just as it is in these photos...

A legend in these parts...



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Re: Lisk's Challenger is for sale [Re: slantzilla] #2368813
09/11/17 02:10 PM
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What year were those pics from?


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Re: Lisk's Challenger is for sale [Re: slantzilla] #2368816
09/11/17 02:16 PM
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I am thinking 1976 or so...I was racing my Hemi Challenger their that day.

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Re: Lisk's Challenger is for sale [Re: hemiviper588] #2368821
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
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Going from a partly leaky memory...

- Lisk's car was fitted originally w/ a 3-speed Lenco, although may have been upgraded to a 4-speed as mentioned in the caption for the picture above.

- An article I came across sometime w/in the last year or so talked about the wrench routine that car went thru on a regular basis, including FREQUENT replacement of rod bearings (possibly the mains, too). That was a seriously high-maintenance beast to keep on the street...

Re: Lisk's Challenger is for sale [Re: slantzilla] #2368890
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Anyone know the back story on Lisk? He looks really young in some of these pictures but that was an expensive car to build and maintain plus it required some serious tuning. Dual Dominators on a Hemi is not an easy tune, especially in the old days without a wideband. I remember trying to keep a 440-6 combo tuned back in the 70's and it was more than my friends and I could figure out. No way could we have kept a Hemi with dual Dominators and a Lenco running back then.

Lisk either was a child genius or he had a bunch of money and some smart friends or maybe all three?

I have 40 years of experience under my belt these days and I'm still not sure I'd be able to keep a dual dominator Hemi with a Lenco up and running for regular street racing!

Re: Lisk's Challenger is for sale [Re: AndyF] #2368918
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My Challenger is built to be a lot like this car. I also have dual Holley dominators on a Hemi for on the street. Old school with a flare of all of today technology also.

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1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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