Re: Steering Wheel Adapter
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08/22/17 04:43 PM
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Any hub kit that was ever made is now obsolete and rare. I try to find a junk steering wheel and use the hub from it as the basis for an adapter...lots of fabrication involved.
Here's an adapter I made for my '57 New Yorker.
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Re: Steering Wheel Adapter
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08/23/17 11:36 AM
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So, without he removable part you could have just used the Grant adapter designed to work with the obviously not original donor column?
My advice tot eh OP would be to consider swapping in a newer column to get things like integrated turn signals that self return. tilt/tele and the ability to use later steering wheels.
Last edited by Supercuda; 08/23/17 11:38 AM.
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Re: Steering Wheel Adapter
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08/23/17 11:55 AM
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So, without he removable part you could have just used the Grant adapter designed to work with the obviously not original donor column?
My advice tot eh OP would be to consider swapping in a newer column to get things like integrated turn signals that self return. tilt/tele and the ability to use later steering wheels. i believe that would be correct. the column uses just the tilt/tele knuckle, with the rest being fabbed up by me. as you may know, the locking mechanism for the telescopic part is routed through the original wheel, so in order to make the wheel removable, i had to re-locate the locking mechanism to the adapter. that took a little thinking, as i wanted to keep things as small and as simple as possible, but retain the strength of the factory design plus look reasonably nice when the wheel is removed. the horn connection is just a simple ground, but due to the size of the removable coupling [just a common dirt burner item], several items needed to be made to isolate the ground and yet make sure the contact points would work time after time, using the basic grant horn kit. you bring up a good point about the OP choosing a modern column for just the reasons you stated.
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Re: Steering Wheel Adapter
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08/23/17 12:32 PM
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Hmm, now I wonder if Grant even makes a tilt/tele adapter?
Well, they make some for tilt columns, no mention of tele one way or the other.
1982-89 Tilt col. All Models 4324 1978-81 Tilt col. All Models 3196
Grant's website really sux for details.
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Re: Steering Wheel Adapter
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I guess the question is, could you get a tilt only column during the years Grant covers them? Or were they all tilt/tele?
I never owned anything other than a standard column back then so I dunno.
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Re: Steering Wheel Adapter
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08/23/17 01:40 PM
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from my junkyard days, i remember tilt only columns in some ramchargers, pickups, and cordobas, plus we had a diplomat cop car with one. i can't remember the exact year these were, but my one buddy is doing a father/son project on a 78 ramcharger, and it has a tilt only column. the truck columns are not very common, but the cordoba ones seemed [at the time] to be more available. i would "think" grant had the adapter listed for these, but i never researched anything. as i have a bunch of grant kits and parts stashed in a box fitting different makes and models [new and used, but nothing in a grant box] i just select parts from my stash. i also keep my eye open at the swaps for various three bolt kits and parts there of that are priced cheap, because now, the kits are expensive [i remember when the kits came with the wheel you purchased, then i griped when the horn button kit went to $4.99 and was an extra cost item for your wheel !] and the adapter hub is separate from the horn button kit, plus [i think] you must choose between chrome and flat black for the horn button and the column cover.
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Re: Steering Wheel Adapter
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08/23/17 03:37 PM
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Thank you guys for all of the input! I was hoping that someone might have an "easy" fix, but in my gut I knew it wouldn't be easy lol! I am gunna investigate the new column, and see what I can come up with!
I have also made contact with Grant and have to send them some pix,measurements, and spline count and they said that they would investigate to see if they could come up with anything.
Cheers!
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Re: Steering Wheel Adapter
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08/24/17 11:22 AM
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out of curiosity, do any of you guys happen to know when mopar went to a splined column shaft ? reason i ask is because my 38 plymouth had a tapered shaft with a key, and my 47 plymouth had a splined shaft. I JUST REMEMBERED !!!! hey OP. i had the ORIGINAL wheel from my 64 barracuda on my 47 ! i just remembered that ! the car was a 3spd [on the tree, which the linkage was removed because i had a 4spd in the car] with manual steering [original box and suspension]. the horn was hooked to a push button, but the wheel bolted up. that would mean [to me] any 69 down 3 bolt grant wheel hub kit should work ! those columns did not have the key in them, and were smaller in diameter. i can't remember if the wheel base fit the column diameter even close, but i was surprised it even fit ! this was before i became proficient in fabrication and machining, so i'm positive there was no adapter involved fitting the barracuda wheel. this would be around the 1972 time frame, before my machinist trade began. check this info out and report back. i hope my mind is still remembering correctly ! that wheel was installed when my new upholstery was done. i'll have to see if i have any old [real] pics of that.
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