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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
[Re: ireland383]
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02/22/09 07:45 AM
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I have done it, no big deal. However a better solution, particularly on a cold start, is to take the time to actually hook up a choke pull cable to it like it was intended. I have mine hidden under the column, under the dash tie wrapped to the honeycomb frame of the column, really comes in handy on a cooler morning or evening, no stalling worries in front of lots of people at a cruise when the choke is partially engaged.
'69 Hemi Charger 500, ‘70 U code Challenger R/T (These and a bunch others at www.dkowal426.com) P.J. O'Rouke: "The old car ran perfectly, right up until it didn't."
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
[Re: aarcuda]
#232400
02/22/09 01:49 PM
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what is this "choke" thing you speak of? I have no such mechanism in my carb.
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
[Re: SeventyGTX]
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02/22/09 01:54 PM
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what is this "choke" thing you speak of? I have no such mechanism in my carb.
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
[Re: OzHemi]
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02/23/09 01:26 AM
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what is this "choke" thing you speak of? I have no such mechanism in my carb.
You's guys are getting me all choked up!
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
[Re: ireland383]
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02/23/09 05:01 AM
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I see no reason to wire it open. If it doesn't work right, fix it.
Travis..
70 GTX project, orig 440-4, 4 spd, track pack, FC7, stripper/street racer special.
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
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02/23/09 10:25 AM
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what is this "choke" thing you speak of? I have no such mechanism in my carb.
yeah that. I have a brand new 6-pack set-up and will probably ditch the choke. I blocked the heat cross overs. I haven't run a choke on a car in who knows how long. I start it in the garage back it out, let it run (feathering if need be) for 30-40 seconds and away I go. If you have a daily driver carbed car you may want to install a manual choke. They seem to work the best.
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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02/23/09 12:50 PM
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remove the choke plate and associated mechanism from the holley double pumpers on the Dart sport (racecar). Run a stock choke on the TQ I had on the original 340 and other street engines when available. 
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
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02/23/09 03:54 PM
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only reason I have every "tied" one open,it was unhooked....would suck shut and stick some times try that in rush hr traffic  q-jet comes to mind and had a one of those holley gas holes do the sticking choke thing also I would unhook and strip all the q-jets down,including the flaper in the air horn,but found by just leaving it in there unhooked the q-jet got better mpgs got a q-jet that just closes the flap and steps it up on fast idle,after its running the vac pull off opens the linkage for the flaper,tap the gas and the weight falls off fast idle but the flapper is unhooked from the linkage...sort of a 1/2 manual choke thats controled by the throttle cable instant start and on the fast idle,engine $uck$ flapper all the way open but stays on fast idle 1-2 mins,tap the gas it goes to curb idle and is ready add at least a short piece of wire to the choke linkage on the carb to hold it open IMO
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
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02/23/09 05:19 PM
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you can still drive it in cool weatjer. its just the first few minutes after you start it that you need to sit there a bit and pedal it to keep it running. i don't typically start my car if its below 40 degrees and the wait time is not more than a minute or two. by the time I back out of the shop and open the gate, its ready to go.
 Haven't had a choke on my street toy in 15yrs. 2 diff carbs, removed all choke equipment on both. I live in WI, so even in summer we get cool mornings and I have no problems. Matter of fact,I know very few people who run chokes on their toy cars. 
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
[Re: Dcuda69]
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02/23/09 09:18 PM
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mine starts and idles perfect even -20 if I let it idle a minute or two I don't even have to feather it, but who wants to drive when its that cold any how, rub out start car com back in 5 minutes and I am good to go. I have a t-quad with no choke. If the base timing is tuned to perfection and your mixture screws are set right when warm you can give them an extra 1/4 turn open and it will richen it up enough to run god cold. If your timing is compromised at all it will make it harder to get it to run good cold. Also need to make sure your air bleeds are set right, a good quality mix burns better when cold. Also you need to make sure it is not a holley because they ocasionally back fire when the tune is slightly off and blow power valves.
I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
[Re: HotRodDave]
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02/23/09 10:42 PM
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mine starts and idles perfect even -20 if I let it idle a minute or two I don't even have to feather it, but who wants to drive when its that cold any how, rub out start car com back in 5 minutes and I am good to go. I have a t-quad with no choke. If the base timing is tuned to perfection and your mixture screws are set right when warm you can give them an extra 1/4 turn open and it will richen it up enough to run god cold. If your timing is compromised at all it will make it harder to get it to run good cold. Also need to make sure your air bleeds are set right, a good quality mix burns better when cold. Also you need to make sure it is not a holley because they ocasionally back fire when the tune is slightly off and blow power valves.
i wouldnt expect a guy named HOTRODDAVE would run a choke. chokes are not hot roddy
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
[Re: 72roadrunnergtx]
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02/24/09 02:46 AM
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...That must be why the carburetor manufactures put those chokes there in the first place?
True to an extent....
But Depending on cam, a choke can be totally unnecessary.
My car will start no matter how cold,(although I won't start it if it's older than -15C ) and idle within 1 minute of starting. Has never had a carb with a choke on it. The mix is bang on. Proven on a dyno, and at the track.
Maybe that's why performance carbs don't come with chokes in the first place?
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
[Re: dave571]
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02/24/09 09:26 AM
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...That must be why the carburetor manufactures put those chokes there in the first place?
True to an extent....
But Depending on cam, a choke can be totally unnecessary.
My car will start no matter how cold,(although I won't start it if it's older than -15C ) and idle within 1 minute of starting. Has never had a carb with a choke on it. The mix is bang on. Proven on a dyno, and at the track.
Maybe that's why performance carbs don't come with chokes in the first place?
chokes will reduce the cfm of the carb. or better yet, removing it will increase the cfm. I read it in my Holley book. they said that the 600 cfm 2 bbl 2300 series (its was really a 4xxx series but i cant remember the actual number but its in the 2300 section) would rate close to 630 or 650 cfm with the choke plate removed.
thats enough reason for me
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open?
[Re: 72roadrunnergtx]
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02/24/09 01:10 PM
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I love having a properly functioning choke on my thermoquad. I drive my satellite to work in the spring-fall months. Leaving before 7am some days, I sure as heck don't want to sit there and spend minutes babying the throttle before I leave for work. I don't get up early enough for that, and to a lesser extent, don't want to wake up the whole neighborhood!  This way I can pump the gas 3 times, hit the key, it fires, 10 seconds later I kick it down and off I go to work. Even on cold mornings I can take off right away. If you don't drive your car much, I'm sure you're fine with out it. I drive mine everywhere and use it as my daily driver so to me driveability is my primary concern. Besides, with those tiny primaries in a thermoquad, I'm not crying over the idea of losing any flow through there anyway.
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