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Removing 6 oak fuel lines #2300395
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So when I turn the nut on the fuel line, the fitting at the fuel bowl is turning as well. The middle and rear carb, there is no way to get a wrench in there.

What's the trick?

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Put a wrench on there one way or another. Even just the ends of the opening of the wrench onto the flats, laying the wrench along the fuel line tube.

Or you can jamb a screwdriver between the flat of that fitting, and whatever is so close that you can't get a wrench on.

Or grab the fitting with a pair of pliers or needlenose.

Or make a flat piece of thick sheet metal into a special wrench that'll fit around/past the stuff that's in the way.

On mine I had to do that, but it's been so long I forget what I used.


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Re: Removing 6 oak fuel lines [Re: mickm] #2300440
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Originally Posted By mickm
So when I turn the nut on the fuel line, the fitting at the fuel bowl is turning as well. The middle and rear carb, there is no way to get a wrench in there.

What's the trick?


The next time you have it apart flare a piece of 5/16" copper tubing,cut off the flare and put it in the inlet fitting,next time one wrench will take it off.

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The bowl fitting should have two flats so you can get a wrench on it

Re: Removing 6 oak fuel lines [Re: mickm] #2300538
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Been a while since I pulled carbs from manifold, but as I recall I had same issue. Believe what I do is disconnect individual carbs at tubing junction fittings. Do not wish to risk damage to carb fitting. Was it Matco that has a special somewhat flat open end wrench that can hold this fitting while loosening the fuel line

Normally I remove carbs when taking intake off, as is easier on my back and ensuring proper intake gasket sealing when putting it back on. As it happens due to a collapsed hydraulic roller issue, intake is off now but with carbs in place. Will have a friend help me to set it on when the time comes.

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As stated above, pulling the carbs with the lines attached would be the safest way, then remove and correct issues with fittings and lines. You may also consider replacing the two rear fuel bowl fittings with what (I believe) originally came on them. They used a smaller wrench size (5/8?)to remove the fitting. Here's a pic of mine. You may able to source a couple through Scott at http://www.harmsauto.com/contact.html

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Re: Removing 6 oak fuel lines [Re: jt4406] #2300662
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Originally Posted By jt4406
As stated above, pulling the carbs with the lines attached would be the safest way, then remove and correct issues with fittings and lines. You may also consider replacing the two rear fuel bowl fittings with what (I believe) originally came on them. They used a smaller wrench size (5/8?)to remove the fitting. Here's a pic of mine. You may able to source a couple through Scott at http://www.harmsauto.com/contact.html

jess


I'll check out those original fittings, but the fuel line blocks access to the rear bolt of both the middle and rear carb, so there is no taking them off with the fuel line on.

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I did get it with a pari of vice-grip needle nose. It does a little cosmetic damage to the fitting, but I couldn't see a way to get anything else in there.

For those that mentioned the flats on the fitting, for the middle and rear carb that only works if they are pointed in exactly the right direction, as the carb in front gets in the way.

I think coming up with a modified wrench is the way to go.

Re: Removing 6 oak fuel lines [Re: 62maxwgn] #2300664
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Originally Posted By 62maxwgn
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So when I turn the nut on the fuel line, the fitting at the fuel bowl is turning as well. The middle and rear carb, there is no way to get a wrench in there.

What's the trick?


The next time you have it apart flare a piece of 5/16" copper tubing,cut off the flare and put it in the inlet fitting,next time one wrench will take it off.


Can you be more specific, I'm not sure I get it...

Re: Removing 6 oak fuel lines [Re: mickm] #2300693
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Originally Posted By mickm
Originally Posted By jt4406
As stated above, pulling the carbs with the lines attached would be the safest way, then remove and correct issues with fittings and lines. You may also consider replacing the two rear fuel bowl fittings with what (I believe) originally came on them. They used a smaller wrench size (5/8?)to remove the fitting. Here's a pic of mine. You may able to source a couple through Scott at http://www.harmsauto.com/contact.html

jess


I'll check out those original fittings, but the fuel line blocks access to the rear bolt of both the middle and rear carb, so there is no taking them off with the fuel line on.


Yes, as I recall fuel line blocks access to these bolts. I know that somehow I get around this,,,perhaps a nut and stud at these positions. I will have a look see at what is done on mine and update. Your fuel lines appear same as what I have.

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Originally Posted By Sxrxrnr

I'll check out those original fittings, but the fuel line blocks access to the rear bolt of both the middle and rear carb, so there is no taking them off with the fuel line on.


Yes, as I recall fuel line blocks access to these bolts. I know that somehow I get around this,,,perhaps a nut and stud at these positions. I will have a look see at what is done on mine and update. Your fuel lines appear same as what I have.

Mickm: Wine/art festival Castro Street Mtn View today with open to all classic car show. I am on my way. [/quote]

I usually go down there, especially as I'm 6 blocks away! But simply forgot about it yesterday, and now the car has a carburetor off! Next time...

Yes, do let me know what you did about the bolts.

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Yes, the fuel lines of the carbs block access to the other carbs' bolts. You have to take off the "S-line" for the middle carb to get access to the pass/rear bolt of the front carb. The same holds true for the middle/back carb.

Yes, those lines are tight & easy to twist/ruin. I usually try to loosen the brass "T's" since I can get at those easier. If the carb fitting spins (if I can't get a wrench on it), I just un-hook the other end of the "s-line" at the brass fitting & take it off with the carburetor. I can't count the number of seized/twisted 6-pack S-lines I've seen.


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Originally Posted By Sxrxrnr
Been a while since I pulled carbs from manifold, but as I recall I had same issue. Believe what I do is disconnect individual carbs at tubing junction fittings. Do not wish to risk damage to carb fitting. Was it Matco that has a special somewhat flat open end wrench that can hold this fitting while loosening the fuel line

Normally I remove carbs when taking intake off, as is easier on my back and ensuring proper intake gasket sealing when putting it back on. As it happens due to a collapsed hydraulic roller issue, intake is off now but with carbs in place. Will have a friend help me to set it on when the time comes.


I had a look at my setup which has a mixture of bolts and studs. Disconnect all lines from brass junction, then as a Chinese puzzle it should be apparent the sequence required to remove each carb.







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