Re: Bell housing question
[Re: bigblockbryan]
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04/29/17 02:04 AM
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All the old NHRA approved scatter shields came with a engine plate in front and a adapter ring to go into the front bearing hole so you could run a big or small front bearing retainer. The later Ansen scatter shields may have came with starter nose adapter to run both the 143 tooth (large) and the 130 tooth (small) diameter flywheels. A lot of the drag racers would leave the front plate off to loose weight I had one of the Ansen scatter shields that only fit the street Hemi motors with the direct drive starters and 170 tooth flywheels You may be able to still buy the kit for the Lakewood that comes with the front plate, adapter rings and the starter nose adapter, contact Lakewood to find out
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Re: Bell housing question
[Re: bigblockbryan]
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04/29/17 03:16 PM
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Okay I cracked my aluminum bell housing on my 833 anyway picked up a old after market one awile ago it looks they are all sold with engine plates is this because there's no dust shield and is it necessary to use one thanks for the advice Considering the hassle of dialing in the new housing and potential parts shortage, why not just weld the crack in the old one?
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Re: Bell housing question
[Re: bigblockbryan]
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04/29/17 07:30 PM
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I have a Lake wood that I run on my Barracuda. Never have run the complete block save plate, just made cover plate to cover the bottom. On the aluminum bell housing. Hope you can tig weld aluminum or you have a very good friend to weld up that bell housing. I just had a crack welded , the weld job as I found out is worth more than the bell housing.
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Re: Bell housing question
[Re: bigblockbryan]
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04/29/17 11:57 PM
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the weld job as I found out is worth more than the bell housing But is it worth more than all the crap he needs to buy and, in the case of the starter kit, won't be able to easily find.
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Re: Bell housing question
[Re: bigblockbryan]
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04/30/17 08:16 PM
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Whenever you swap bellhousings you must dial in the center hole, odds are it won't be centered so you'll have to deal with offset dowel pins to center it. Add to that the possible missing hardware, and welding might look like a better alternative.
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Re: Bell housing question
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04/30/17 10:58 PM
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Depending on what is cracked and how badly there is no guarantee the original bell housing won't need dialing in too.
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Re: Bell housing question
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05/01/17 12:11 AM
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Ok ,bigblock bryan didn't say anything about a starter, just the bearing retainer ring. By that I would think he has the smaller retainer and a bigger hole in the bell housing. I guess I would like to know how you cracked the bellhousing trying to install the transmission? Did you replace the clutch disc and not use an alignment tool ,then try to pull the bell housing to the block? Installing the trans with out the centering ring will not center the trans, the bolt holes are not tight enough to do that, you will have a off centered clutch disc and it will shake the heck out of your car. The ring and the bearing retainer are a tight fit. Another thing you state that bolting the trans to the bellhousing and installing it. I don't know how others do the trans install but in 50 years of putting in 4 speeds I have always put the bell housing on the engine then put the trans on the bellhousing. That is if the engine is in the car. Dialing in the bell housing: I didn't do it for years, Luck ? probably, It's easy when you have the proper tools, a hoist , a helper to rotate the engine while checking runout, then if needed, ordering the correct offset dowels from McRobb or is it robbmc? and doing it again hoping you got the correct readings the first time. It's not rocket science but sure is a pain in the butt.
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