Re: "Roll yer own" bigger brakes
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Machined the Dakota rotors as hubs to fit the Crown Vic stockers. No mods to the Crown Vic rotors.
The other part of this may be "can the 13" Mustang rotors also be used"? Answer is Yes, but. Yes, they will also work, but they have "less hat" than the Crown Vic rotors. That moves the caliper farther away from the steering knuckle and requires a thicker wheel spacer. So yeah, it can also work.
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Re: "Roll yer own" bigger brakes
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Are longer wheel studs needed?
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Re: "Roll yer own" bigger brakes
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Geez that Dakota hub wheel face is Uber thick, does that take standard mopar/fmj wheel bearings ?? I plan on doing some thing similar with my volare, but I am using Mustang cobra rotors front and rear, and brembo 4 piston calipers front and 2 piston rear off a 2005 Mercedes clk500, I can't wait to see how this turns out, and I plan on upgrading to 18" wheels, but I am trying to stuff them inside 17" wheels also using large bolt pattern hubs from a mid 70s duster that had drums up front
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Re: "Roll yer own" bigger brakes
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Geez that Dakota hub wheel face is Uber thick, does that take standard mopar/fmj wheel bearings ?? I plan on doing some thing similar with my volare, but I am using Mustang cobra rotors front and rear, and brembo 4 piston calipers front and 2 piston rear off a 2005 Mercedes clk500, I can't wait to see how this turns out, and I plan on upgrading to 18" wheels, but I am trying to stuff them inside 17" wheels also using large bolt pattern hubs from a mid 70s duster that had drums up front I have a Volare front end in my garage. I'll see if I can pull the rotors off this weekend and let you know if the Dakota "hub" will fit the F body spindle. Also, I think I mentioned that I see no problem with using this combo with 13" Cobra rotors other than it positions the caliper further away from the steering knuckle and MAY (or may not) require spacers. Late edit: Dak "hub" won't work on the FMJ. Dak spindle is bigger.
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Re: "Roll yer own" bigger brakes
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Now you got me thinking get if the Dakota spindle has the same dimensions as the fmj, but I believe the fmj is taller, I just rockauto searched and the ball joints are different, but with out physically measuring I wouldn't know the difference, looks like when I hit the junk yard today or tomorrow I'll see if I can find a fmjob to use as a test stand, and I know they have older Dakota state so this should be intresting
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Re: "Roll yer own" bigger brakes
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Now you got me thinking get if the Dakota spindle has the same dimensions as the fmj, but I believe the fmj is taller, I just rockauto searched and the ball joints are different, but with out physically measuring I wouldn't know the difference, looks like when I hit the junk yard today or tomorrow I'll see if I can find a fmjob to use as a test stand, and I know they have older Dakota state so this should be intresting I can tell you the Dakota spindle and the FMJ spindle are not close in dimensions. Dakota spindle is thicker. Dakota is front steer and FMJ is rear steer so the Dak hangs the caliper in the back while the FMJ hangs it in the front. That said, if you work with the FMJ stuff to try this you can really leave the Dakota parts out of the picture. If you hit the junkyard, grab a couple of nasty, rusty old FMJ brake rotors and a nasty, old 1998-2002 Crown Vic rotor AND hub. Oh, and while you're there, locate a couple of 95-00 LS400 calipers. See if you can get the shootin' match for under $60. After that, you're on your own! Greg
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Re: "Roll yer own" bigger brakes
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A quick update and maybe you'll see something you didn't know. I picked up a 12" X 24" X 1\2" thick steel plate ($36) to fabricate the caliper mounting brackets. Made a cardboard template, then drew the outline on the steel plate. Dropped off the plate, template and spindles at the machinist. He'll get back to me fairly soon. In the meantime, my curiosity got the best of me about how this setup would work in other sized wheels. I know it works in 17" and 18" wheels, but what about 15" wheels? It so happens I have a set of 15" Mopar Cop Steelies sitting in the rafters so I got one down to check for a fit. Guess what? It sorta fits. Sorta? Well, when the Dakota hub, Crown Vic rotor and Lexus caliper are placed in the Mopar 15" wheel, the tapered portion of the rim fouls the caliper. BUT, if you run a 1\2" or 3\4" spacer, you've got all the clearance you'd need. So, that's the answer to the question nobody asked.
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Re: "Roll yer own" bigger brakes
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hells yea, awesome update Greg, I can't wait to see more progress shots !!
-Mike
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