Re: Holley 8896 vs 9375
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02/14/09 04:18 PM
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Id like to see some pictures please. IMO To my knowledge there is some diff in booster types, mainly the count of holes 6 vs 12. Not saying there isn't a such animal, but all my years of running, buying selling, and viewing countless for sale adds on Ebay motors, racing junk, and many other classifieds etc, I have seen no such animal. I have actually owned a dominator with a type of individual choke towers per bore (read 20 years old) and it had annual boosters. BTW The 8896 vs 9375 uses the identical main bodies. The main diff is in the metering block (no provision for power valve) and maybe some variations of air bleeds etc. The newer revisions offer little performance gains over the older dominator carbs, if both tuned properly. The added ease of changing air bleeds is what makes them more desirable. Its easy enough to convert these to screw in air bleeds also. I have even added these jets in the main body (intermediate circuit), to help the part throttle blues. So post some pic already
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Re: Holley 8896 vs 9375
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02/15/09 09:54 AM
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I have tested the 8896 (non Hp) versus the non HP 9375 on a 440 brackt motor with a Mopar M1 4500 intake on the motor, both carbs had the stock jetting and squirters and squirter cams. The 9375 was quicker and fater than the 8896 Same thing on a engine on a DTS engine dyno, the stock 9375 was worth about 8 hp more and 5 ft. lbs more torque than the 8896
Thats why I have so many 9375's and only one 8896, because I always thought they ran better in any aplication, but I have never had a 8896 with the annular boosters.
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Re: Holley 8896 vs 9375
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02/15/09 10:24 AM
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I have tested the 8896 (non Hp) versus the non HP 9375 on a 440 brackt motor with a Mopar M1 4500 intake on the motor, both carbs had the stock jetting and squirters and squirter cams. The 9375 was quicker and fater than the 8896 Same thing on a engine on a DTS engine dyno, the stock 9375 was worth about 8 hp more and 5 ft. lbs more torque than the 8896
Cab, you tested both with stock jetting... did you optimize the jetting on each to find out which really made more power. I can see the 9375 making more power than the 8896 if it was fatter. My 8896 came with 88s in both front and rear, I ended up with 94s in both sides for the best runs
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Re: Holley 8896 vs 9375
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02/15/09 11:06 AM
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I have tested the 8896 (non Hp) versus the non HP 9375 on a 440 brackt motor with a Mopar M1 4500 intake on the motor, both carbs had the stock jetting and squirters and squirter cams. The 9375 was quicker and fater than the 8896 Same thing on a engine on a DTS engine dyno, the stock 9375 was worth about 8 hp more and 5 ft. lbs more torque than the 8896
Cab, you tested both with stock jetting... did you optimize the jetting on each to find out which really made more power. I can see the 9375 making more power than the 8896 if it was fatter. My 8896 came with 88s in both front and rear, I ended up with 94s in both sides for the best runs
I was going to ask the same question. if not the test was useless.
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Re: Holley 8896 vs 9375
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02/15/09 12:24 PM
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I have tested the 8896 (non Hp) versus the non HP 9375 on a 440 brackt motor with a Mopar M1 4500 intake on the motor, both carbs had the stock jetting and squirters and squirter cams. The 9375 was quicker and fater than the 8896 Same thing on a engine on a DTS engine dyno, the stock 9375 was worth about 8 hp more and 5 ft. lbs more torque than the 8896
Cab, you tested both with stock jetting... did you optimize the jetting on each to find out which really made more power. I can see the 9375 making more power than the 8896 if it was fatter. My 8896 came with 88s in both front and rear, I ended up with 94s in both sides for the best runs
I was going to ask the same question. if not the test was useless.
Raz, Quicktree, no jetting changes on the 8896 as the wide ban on the dyno said it was in the same AFR range as the 9375 on the dyno, 12.70 to 12.80. I did later try going up and down one jet size on one of the 9375 and it lost a little power on both changes In the car the bracket motor did like one size up(#93 Holley jets) during the cooler months in the Mojave desert, below 60F and when it got real hot,above 100F it like one size smaller(#91) than the stock jets the rest of the year it ran the quickest and fastest with 92 jets, that was on a 440 bracket motor in a Duster with a M1 4500 intake and a K&N air filter, the hood had a 6 pak scoop on it. that car ran low 11s to high to mid 10s at the local tracks in SO CA back then, LACR and at Las Vegas. EDIT, I did try a 8896-2HP Dominator on a motor on another 446 bracket motor on the same DTS engine dyno and that rascal was way to fat out of the box, AFR read 11.0s I had to have The Carb Shop modify metering plates and block the rear power valve off with 92 jets in the rear and run 84 jets in the front with a 3.5 power valve, still not as good as a stock 9375 non HP
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Re: Holley 8896 vs 9375
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02/15/09 01:18 PM
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So cab have you ever converted the 9375 to a 2 circuit metering block system?There are alot of "seasoned" street racers out there that have successfully modified and installed 4150 metering blocks to the 9375 and made a terrific big arm street carb. Gus
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Re: Holley 8896 vs 9375
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02/15/09 09:36 PM
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Yeah I really wasn't looking to run one on my car but it just kinda fell into my lap(that would hurt)last year.I always heard they had a stumble issue on the street and the fuel would dribble out at slight throttle opening.So I done some research and wound up on a few Chevy sites and another high tech tuning site for the Innovate Engineering testing equipment site.Now there are some very good fuel system tuners on that site. Gus
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