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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240204
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Well as for my fab skills and budget. I completely built this volksrod for under $5000. and it would get as much attention as 40,000 plus dollar cars.

Also mid 70s to mid 90s Corvettes can be bought complete for less than 2k. If you don't care the condition.

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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240212
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I thought I was clear what I was asking didn't mean to have members argue about different aspect of what they thought I was looking for.
I will try and make it simple, the Lexus SC300 suggestion is an example what I was looking for. And thanks for that.

Asking the street/hot rod guys what suspension systems work is a can of worms.


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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240231
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You barely put enough info in to qualify as a question so getting quality answers is going to be tough.

All suspensions "work", what you really haven't done is provide any parameters to define what you mean by work.

You are looking for cheap, well that bug you posted is fenderless, it has a suspension that works and it's probably cheap, you obviously know them so you wouldn't have a learning curve. Unless that is the "rod" you are thinking of, in which case it's probably not what you are wanting.


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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240244
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My original question stands, no perameters or qualifiers or other nonsense.

What junkyard or cheap ass craigslist find vehicles are good doners for thier suspension components? Simple question that should be a simple answer from guys who have actually done it.

the question is clear as long YOU don't add other complications.


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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240256
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Cheap, plentiful, easy to get parts...
Chevy s-10, dodge dakota.

Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240289
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Fine then

Any car or truck or motorcycle or airplane or tank or cement mixer that fits your definition of cheap.

It can all me "made to work".


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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240301
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Supercuda, You were one that gave me exactly what I was asking for, now have decided to give me a smart ass remark, shows you really givea...care/thought about what you write.

The suggestion of the Lexus coupe is right on point, matter of fact going to look at a SC400, driver for 1000 obo this weekend.


BUT NOW, YOU CONVENIENTLY LEAVE OUT WHAT I SAY TO MAKE A STUPID POINT. THANKS FOR THAT.

What makes this question so hard to understand?

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What junkyard or cheap craigslist find vehicles are GOOD doners for thier suspension components?

(Open wheeled rod is in my original post)

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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240343
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Originally Posted By modelmakerinc
I thought I was clear what I was asking didn't mean to have members argue about different aspect of what they thought I was looking for.
I will try and make it simple, the Lexus SC300 suggestion is an example what I was looking for. And thanks for that.

Asking the street/hot rod guys what suspension systems work is a can of worms.
Hey all, this is not a bad thread, as long as it doesn't get nasty. A little bit of arguing ( different opinions / points of view ) aint a bad thing. To the OP; take it all in. Use what you can or want. Dump the rest. More info in your original post would have helped, but we are getting there. I'm sure not picking sides. Most on here have more talent than I do for sure. I'm not a VW fan, but yours really looks cool and I wouldn't mind seeing more pics of it.
On another note, sometimes scratch builds ( so to speak ) should be geared around the power plant you want to use. You sure don't want to have a 3-400HP motor hooking up to a Chevy S10 drive train because it fits the dimensions you are looking for. Just something else to consider. beer


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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240351
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Crizilla, here is a build thread on the volksrod, it was fun to build and funner to drive but a bit too underpowered to be a blast everytime out.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=506712

I just wanted to hear other people's thoughts on suspension setups that are out of doner cars that look decent, function well and are a reasonably basic job, I'm not trying to build an over engineered space ship, I want to build something pretty different. That doest fit into a given category.


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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240386
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i am thinking that i am going to get a spare tire and wheel---any ideas out there?

Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240434
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Never saw an open wheel car done with an existing donor car suspension that didnt look inbred. Aftermarkets the only way to go, and doesnt cost any more by the time you blast parts, replace suspension and brake parts, etc. Add it up.

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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240474
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Originally Posted By modelmakerinc
Crizilla, here is a build thread on the volksrod, it was fun to build and funner to drive but a bit too underpowered to be a blast everytime out.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=506712

I just wanted to hear other people's thoughts on suspension setups that are out of doner cars that look decent, function well and are a reasonably basic job, I'm not trying to build an over engineered space ship, I want to build something pretty different. That doest fit into a given category.
Awesome. up Thanks for sharing! Lots of work there. Unique and cool ride for sure. wave


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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240525
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Since you do not qualify GOOD other than CHEAP nor do you give any other parameters how the heck do you expect a relevant answer.

Since cheap was the only qualifier you gave then cheap is the answer you got. Whatever fits your budget fits your parameters regardless of donor.


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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: savoy64] #2240545
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Originally Posted By savoy64
i am thinking that i am going to get a spare tire and wheel---any ideas out there?
"Round" might be a good start. bump


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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: Crizila] #2240551
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Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240688
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The reason this opens a can of worms is that "open wheel rod" dictates a certain look. The front is a Solid axle, Ford style cross spring for the most part, and either old style drum brakes for a traditional car or discs if it fits a modern style.
This applies to anything from a T Bucket at under 2000 pounds


to a mid-30s coupe


to a rodded Peterblt that tips the scales over 6000 pounds


That IS the look, and no modern donor car provides this aesthetic, unless you can live with something that looks like this.
Mustang II


or this S-10




Note also that the T Bucket and Peterblt have huge differences in size and weight. These also determine what would be a good donor, and you will not provide any ideas on these very important details. We are not trying to argue with you, but you provide very little to go on and the input you DO provide is opposite each other (trad look, modern components).

There have been modern IFS suspensions on street rods, BUT they are not junkyard/donor car parts. They are more in the area of fabricated to appear like a race car, even if using Mustang II geometry.
No way to get this look on a budget, unless you can fabricate it...


Reading
http://www.how-to-build-hotrods.com/suspension.html

Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2240697
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BTW, you mention the Corvette as a donor.
While the control arms are aluminum and thin/light enough visually for the aesthetic, the crossmember is not a thing of beauty.




They also require fab skills. Here's an example
http://1929fordhotrod.com/johnsblog/preview-of-the-1929-ford-chassis-with-c4-corvette-suspension/

Re: Opinions wanted, Doner car suspension/chassis [Re: modelmakerinc] #2247778
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I personally think that lexus front end looks pretty good and for wanting something on the low buck end this would be my choice. How are things with you Henry? Looking forward to see what you have cooking.

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That Peter would look friggen awesome with a box on the back, one designed to fit the look of the truck.

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