Indy Hemi Intake valley pan?
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OK I would like to know my options on how to seal the valley area on this Hemi. This is the Indy signle plan, and has NO made in valley cover. I really dont want the Indy plate, if its the same as the Wedge design, how the heads capture the cover. I want to do some track testing against the MP Cross Ram, and want a quick swap. Is welding a plate to the bottom of this intake the only option? BTW I got around to fab'n up the linkage for the Cross Ram setup carbs. I was afraid the over the counter linkage kits would not fit right. These are oddball carbs (660 center squirter), and need 1 inch spacers to make the linkage clear etc.. Made the bell crank out of scrap 1/4 motor plate, and the rod tubes out of 3/8 aluminum round stock I drill and tapped for 1/4 rod ends. Very cheap setup, compared to the $300+ linkage kits. See any problem with this setup? Thanks goes out to a great guy Steve Reasbeck
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Re: Indy Hemi Intake valley pan?
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02/12/09 07:12 PM
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OK I would like to know my options on how to seal the valley area on this Hemi. This is the Indy signle plan, and has NO made in valley cover. I really dont want the Indy plate, if its the same as the Wedge design, how the heads capture the cover. I want to do some track testing against the MP Cross Ram, and want a quick swap. Is welding a plate to the bottom of this intake the only option?
BTW I got around to fab'n up the linkage for the Cross Ram setup carbs. I was afraid the over the counter linkage kits would not fit right. These are oddball carbs (660 center squirter), and need 1 inch spacers to make the linkage clear etc.. Made the bell crank out of scrap 1/4 motor plate, and the rod tubes out of 3/8 aluminum round stock I drill and tapped for 1/4 rod ends. Very cheap setup, compared to the $300+ linkage kits. See any problem with this setup?
Thanks goes out to a great guy Steve Reasbeck
im wondering if those 1" spacers will help or hurt you? id like to know those results also.i dont think a valley tray will be a option though.
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Re: Indy Hemi Intake valley pan?
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02/13/09 12:09 PM
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He was nice enough to share his setup, and even sending pics. He runs a setup very similar to this one...He took the time to answer my questions, and responded very quickly.....I hope some day I can return the favor.
That's what I thought,Steve is a great guy
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Re: Indy Hemi Intake valley pan?
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02/13/09 04:34 PM
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Bob is the guy who came up with, and built my setup in the first place. If something can be fabricated, BG is the guy to figure it out. That is why he is what he is, a mental giant in addition to looking very much like Brad Pitt. As far as personal compliments, I'll take all that you guys can offer. You've got to have a thick skin to run out of BGR, and compliments can be hard to come by!! He fabricated it for the AFB's, but it didn't take much to adapt it to the Holleys. For what is involved with these linkages, it is my humble opinion that they are WAY, WAY, overpriced.
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Re: Indy Hemi Intake valley pan?
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02/13/09 06:49 PM
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I will throw this out there. I had a conversation with Ken Lazzeri. I was asking about the valley pan, and told him my plans. He informed me that this intake will shave a easy .3-.4 off E/T, over the Cross Ram. He said it was a plug fouler, and was 75+hp behind the single plane intake I have. I don't think it was a sales pitch, he knew I already have the intake. He said the New MP unit like I have isn't as good as the Original Magnesium unit. I figured the Indy intake is a pretty good piece, but is this Cross Ram such a turd?
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Re: Indy Hemi Intake valley pan?
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02/13/09 09:47 PM
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I will throw this out there. I had a conversation with Ken Lazzeri. I was asking about the valley pan, and told him my plans. He informed me that this intake will shave a easy .3-.4 off E/T, over the Cross Ram. He said it was a plug fouler, and was 75+hp behind the single plane intake I have. I don't think it was a sales pitch, he knew I already have the intake. He said the New MP unit like I have isn't as good as the Original Magnesium unit. I figured the Indy intake is a pretty good piece, but is this Cross Ram such a turd?
you need to put up a picture of this intake you have from indy. i personally think it is vertually impossible for the magnesium intake to outperform the mp crossram,theres not enough plenum volume in the magnesium crossram. BG and myself have gone over this so many times i think hes going to kick me in the stones next time we talk about it. unless you open up the top of the magnesium crossram and grind away its always going to be a turd. but if that indy one looks and works as good as a mp one, ill buy one in a heartbeat. sorry let me rephrase that,"BG will buy one for me" right dad!!!! please post a picture of that indy intake.
I been tring all evening to upload a pic on Photobucket....I have the pics, someone send me a PM I can email it to you. Its a 4500 flange, the plenum is similar to the 3X Indy wedge. The intake inst that tall like 6 1/2 inch to carb pad. I was thinking they make a tall vesrion too....I havent had any luck resizing these to fit the web limit...
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Re: Indy Hemi Intake valley pan?
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02/13/09 10:20 PM
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RAPID TRANSIT, go to your camera and set your camera to PC images, you got your camera on the wrong setting. take another picture and resend it. its easier. i just looked on indys website and the intake if its the same one i saw looks very similar to the indy 440-25 bathtub crossram. it definitely makes some serious power.
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