66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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I have acquired Big Joe Teutons 1966 Coronet convertible. It was an ordered car with a build date of Sept 29, 1966, seems late. Original 318 poly, AC, PS, power top but standard single master cylinder all working on car. Runs great but smokes a little. It has RT side badges, RT front grill and no chrome trim down the side like the normal 66 cars. It is a 500 with P code in vin and speaking of vin. The older 66 cars have a stamped vin pad with raised numbers and this one is the 67 style cleaner stencil type, but a 66 vin for sure. Someone in the know also pointed out it has a 67 interior and console. Anybody come across a car like this? 66 1/2?
Jim Pancake, a Dodge dealer told me it would have been in line with 67s in late Sept and as an ordered car, who knows. I have not pulled the back seat to look for a build sheet. Thanks
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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That is almost 2 full months into the 67 model year build which began on August of 66.
No, there in no such thing as a 66 1/2 ...
Do you have any actual proof that the car is 100% unmolested ?
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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That SPD should make it a '67 car, as previously stated, but the Poly says '66. Sounds like a customized car to me. It's not unheard of for cars built at the very start or end of production to use some parts from the previous or later model year, but the description sounds more like a car that was altered, not produced. I'd be that if you get a look at the backsides of the body side panels you'll find that the molding holes were welded/filled. There is nothing in the SPD that calls out the build year, just month and day , if it says 929 on the fender tag it stands for 9/29/1965.
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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Had a 67 plymouth with Poly even though they were supposed to be LAs.It was all OE when we got it.That was in the 80s and was a 1 owner car.Rocky
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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That SPD should make it a '67 car, as previously stated, but the Poly says '66. Sounds like a customized car to me. It's not unheard of for cars built at the very start or end of production to use some parts from the previous or later model year, but the description sounds more like a car that was altered, not produced. I'd be that if you get a look at the backsides of the body side panels you'll find that the molding holes were welded/filled. No engine or transmission stamped with partial VINs until the 1968 model year. There is nothing in the SPD that calls out the build year, just month and day , if it says 929 on the fender tag it stands for 9/29/1965. Build month & day they hoped for, but there is no way to know the actual build day or month. I do agree on 1965 for the 1966 model year start though.
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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Good points by all. The sequence # matches the body. The date has to be 9 29 66 because it has a large 278k in last 6 of vin. I have March and July Hemi Coronets with lower vin last 6. Poly was last year in US 66 and I think Canada was 67. Big Joe was a Chrysler dealer and factory racer so I would think he could order a weird car. Mrs Teuton may have wanted an ac car, they still have a hemi. Will see Lil Joe at our D4 banquet next week and see what light he can shed. I bet that AC compressor weighs 50 lbs. LOL Parts store showed "E" in vin as polysphere. That is followed by 6 which is year. 66 RT?? Cool Car Pun!!! I will try to get some pics.
The quarters are 66, no fake scoops. Still has the original snap down top bra.
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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Good points by all. The sequence # matches the body. The date has to be 9 29 66 because it has a large 278k in last 6 of vin. I have March and July Hemi Coronets with lower vin last 6. Poly was last year in US 66 and I think Canada was 67. Big Joe was a Chrysler dealer and factory racer so I would think he could order a weird car. Mrs Teuton may have wanted an ac car, they still have a hemi. Will see Lil Joe at our D4 banquet next week and see what light he can shed. I bet that AC compressor weighs 50 lbs. LOL Parts store showed "E" in vin as polysphere. That is followed by 6 which is year. 66 RT?? Cool Car Pun!!! I will try to get some pics.
The quarters are 66, no fake scoops. No RT's in 66......
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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I have some pics, how do I post?
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WP27E67278xxx = '66 Coronet 500 convertible w/"poly" 318 WH27E67278xxx = '66 Coronet 440 convertible w/"poly" 318 either would've been "SCHEDULED" mid-May '66 - are you reading a shipping date or first sold date??
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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The sequence # matches the body If you mean the VIN sequence, it should not match the body numbers for this year.
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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The one on SQ # on fender tag matches body. Last 6 of vin is other numbers. I am trying to get some pics up.
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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Look at the dash where the half round chrome trim goes over the column, I s it metal or plastic? Look at the dash colored piece under the column, is it metal or plastic?
Plastic is 67, metal is 66 and they will not interchange. Metal dash frame is different.
Look at steering column, is it painted a satin color or full gloss? Look at column under dash near brake pedal, does it have a part of the tube 6" long that is a mesh? By hat is a collapsing 67 column.
Is steering wheel colored like the interior? Does it have 2 spokes or 3?
Does the console have the end piece bolt on? Look inside the console box and you will see the fast ers inside there on the rear end. You can see the seam on the outside.
66 and 67 front fenders are different where headlight buckets mount, weld on in 66, bolt on in 67.
The 66 and 67 heater boxes are different in the way the metal brackets are attached also, need to go in garage and look at that again.
Generally August 1st started the next model year car production.
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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Look at the dash where the half round chrome trim goes over the column, I s it metal or plastic? Look at the dash colored piece under the column, is it metal or plastic? METAL
Plastic is 67, metal is 66 and they will not interchange. Metal dash frame is different. METAL
Look at steering column, is it painted a satin color or full gloss? Look at column under dash near brake pedal, does it have a part of the tube 6" long that is a mesh? By hat is a collapsing 67 column. STRAIGHT COLUMN
Is steering wheel colored like the interior? Does it have 2 spokes or 3? TWO
Does the console have the end piece bolt on? Look inside the console box and you will see the fast ers inside there on the rear end. You can see the seam on the outside. YES BOLT ON
66 and 67 front fenders are different where headlight buckets mount, weld on in 66, bolt on in 67.
The 66 and 67 heater boxes are different in the way the metal brackets are attached also, need to go in garage and look at that again.
Generally August 1st started the next model year car production.
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