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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: scatpacktom]
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02/13/09 09:44 PM
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500 hp in a 3100 lbs package should run 10.90 at 127.5 mph with a 1.70 60'. I would think that is very possible in a A body. I think the key will be to take as much weight off the front as possible so you can add 100 lbs of weight to the rear of the car and still end up 3100 with driver.
Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.
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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: dannysbee]
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02/14/09 07:50 AM
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500HP at the wheels. My best of 11.93 was @ 115mph which calculates to be about 370 rwhp. I'm building in a little more cubes and some more compression but its gonna be quite a feat to find 130rwhp.  Tom, get workin on that big motor!!
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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: CJK440]
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02/14/09 10:56 AM
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A Duster, Demon with a 3100 lbs race weight and 500 flywheel HP would also be interesting in FAST. Could this be the first 10 second FAST small block.
Duster, Check
Weight, Check
Horsepower, building now
10's?, I'll take sub 11.50's.
I'm looking forward to the 09 season for sure.
Sub 11.50's is definitely possible, I've done it with drag radials and a poor 1.72 60 foot time.
1971 Factory Appearing Duster 340 11.000 @ 122 mph
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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: Rapid340]
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02/14/09 11:55 AM
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The 500 HP I used in the calculation was flywheel, 450 at the wheels would get you the same results. If the numbers that Dave got on his 340 build were not on a happy Dyno I think it's a possible goal. Easy, not saying that. Weight distribution and transfer will be key. What kind of 60's has Joel run in his Hemi car with a stick and at least 700 more lbs to launch on the same tire an A body will be on? I think I will call mine David.
Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.
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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: F1Scamp]
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02/14/09 06:34 PM
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Give me the MPH of that 11.61 run and I will tell you how much HP you are making. Is that the weight with driver? If that 11.61 was on poly's you probably making enough steam.
Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.
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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: dannysbee]
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02/14/09 07:04 PM
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11.61 @ 117mph was on poly's in the AAR. 3670 w/driver and a pretty hurt tranny. That motor will more than likely be making it's way into the 71 duster...
Work In Progress- 71' Duster F.A.S.T.- 10.36@130 Smallblock Record Holder.
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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: F1Scamp]
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02/14/09 07:32 PM
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The motor is making 460 at the flywheel or 413 at the wheels. 40 more hp and a 3100 lbs with driver a-body, going to be a tough combo. Has anyone done any testing to see which is the best set up the six pack or the thermo quad? I wanted a 72 Demon so I would have fresh air.
Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.
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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: dannysbee]
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02/14/09 07:40 PM
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The motor is making 460 at the flywheel or 413 at the wheels. 40 more hp and a 3100 lbs with driver a-body, going to be a tough combo. Has anyone done any testing to see which is the best set up the six pack or the thermo quad? I wanted a 72 Demon so I would have fresh air.
Haven't done any testing, but it would be hard to imagine the T quad(even though it's a pretty good race carb) trumping a 6 pack. the manifold itself is much better.
MB
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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: HPMike]
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02/14/09 08:45 PM
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Mike I have not done any comparison to a Sixpack but the factory four barrel intake is quite good as I can remember the disapointment after laying my hard earned $4.00 an hour down for a LD340, and getting little to no performance increase. The 340-360 A body cars do well in stock eleminator and the intake and carburator are one of the reasons in my opinion.
Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.
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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: XXHEMI]
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02/15/09 09:59 AM
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I will NEVER under estimate Tom. Dave keeps putting these Hemi thoughts in his head.
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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: aarmaniac]
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02/15/09 11:40 AM
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well whatever can be done to the manifold is going to be done. I know the carb can be made to flow over 900+cfm. But to lose the fresh air is going to hurt big time. I can't wait to see what all these cars are going to do this year.
Work In Progress- 71' Duster F.A.S.T.- 10.36@130 Smallblock Record Holder.
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Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST?
[Re: CJK440]
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02/16/09 09:31 AM
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and I don't think Benoint is done with the LT-1 Corvette, either...........
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If anyone is going to get in the lead it's you. I think Tom is working too much on the bigblock stuff. I keep falling farther behind on where I would like to be.
