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Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: turbo toad] #2035142
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yes, that is the pan and i was wrong on the price. thats the pan i would like to try. will that pan work with my combo?

Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: mopar dave] #2035181
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I used that pan in my 440 dart, revving to 6700 for over 5 yrs and i intend to use it with my low deck stroker as well.
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Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: deaks] #2035205
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cool, sounds like a good pan.

Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: mopar dave] #2035348
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I have this pan for sale in the race section. It came out of a BB A-body car. The pan had to be modified to clear the idler arm. That is one thing to watch out for in an A body car, it the pan doesn't have that clearance then you'll need to be modify the pan.

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Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: AndyF] #2035400
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Didnt know those pans needed clearancing like that for A body. Do all bb pans need mods like that to fit A bodies?

Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: mopar dave] #2035480
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The factory type pans are IIRC "187" and "499" part numbers. they have a feature that's not as deep, and more rounded to clear the idler arm.


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Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: mopar dave] #2035491
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Every pan needs some kind of clearance for a bb a body, or you lose some turning. Im not sure if the cheap deep sump pans on eBay clear or not but they have the whole right side bent up to clear. Are you using 67-72 or 73+ steering?

Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: JAMESDART] #2035500
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yes 67 barracuda factory steering.

Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: mopar dave] #2035594
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Yeah you need a clearanced pan. If you can't weld, just buy the pan from andyf. Ive seen some guys that still had to ad more clearance to the c body pans,while!e it worked for others. I think the 73+ steering may clear a pan with no notch but I'm not positive, it wont swap over to a 67 k frame without cutting and welding anyway. On my 74 duster I used the c body pan that I put a baffle in, just because I had it, I don't think it needed it.

Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: AndyF] #2159285
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Yep! Had to do that with my 440 source Pan. Also cut out and reboxed K frame.I had a little more of a problem because of girdle. (dropped things down a little more)

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Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: dare_dude] #2159722
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Milodon Road Race pan, low profile with great baffling. You MAY need to clearance the K-member, The k members are not very consistent in construction. The only downside of the Milodon pan is they aren't cheap, but neither are engines....whistling

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Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: AndyF] #2159733
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Originally Posted By AndyF
I have this pan for sale in the race section. It came out of a BB A-body car. The pan had to be modified to clear the idler arm. That is one thing to watch out for in an A body car, it the pan doesn't have that clearance then you'll need to be modify the pan.


A 440source pan hit the K-frame significantly (B engine in stock position with AR motor plate) and I didn't feel like notching the K. I tried a Milodon center sump pan and it did fit (barely), but still bumped the steering linkage in the area shown.

So I clearanced it with a BFH. hammer Looks ugly but nobody can see it under there anyway!
Although if it ever comes off again I'll have someone cut & weld a neat notch like Andy's cool

Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: mopar dave] #2159782
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Milidon road race pan on my 68 Valiant

Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: mopar dave] #2160595
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I am using the Milodon 7qt with external oiling. Part Number 30931.

Engine is a low deck stroker, stock steering box and idler, QA1 upper and lower control arms. Factory 318 torsion bars... Lakewood scatter shield with Jerico 4-Speed.....

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Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: Skeptic] #2160718
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Originally Posted By Skeptic
Milodon Road Race pan, low profile with great baffling. You MAY need to clearance the K-member, The k members are not very consistent in construction. The only downside of the Milodon pan is they aren't cheap, but neither are engines....whistling


Another vote for the road race pan. I went through 2 7 qt pans, 1 Milodon, 1 Moroso due to ground clearance issues (admittedly we live on a road that people with Jeeps comment on its condition). If I had bought the road race pan it would have cost the same as the total of the two pans plus I still had to bu the road race pan. This is on a 70 Road Runner so can not speak to K members, steering etc. Even on the B body it would have been easier to install from underneath with that pan but hopefully you install the engine on an irregular basis..... Once in no issues on the clearance front.


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Re: which sump for lo deck A body [Re: David_in_St_Croi] #2160740
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This is the pan CAB sold me. says it fits A body with least resistance. I haven't installed it yet.

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