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SB VICTOR ready for Dyno #2075896
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: dino Almost time to hook up to the Dyno thank you Allen Sherman at Trumble racing Engines let's see what this bad boy will do!!!

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1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2075900
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How about some details on the motor?


69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2075952
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Ritter block 4.185 x 4.0

Victor heads OOTB with clean up and valve job

60 mm cam .480 int .460 exh 1.6 rockers

Houghes big block victor rockers with fit spacers

1000 cfm throttle stop carb

15 to 1 comp

intake flow is 380 at .800

This is going in a super street 69 Barracuda 2800lb w/driver
looking for 10.90 @ 145 to 150 mph
It is being build by Allen Sherman at Trumble Racing

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2075976
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I have finaly seen a unicorn!

Sweet piece, hope it runs real good,as it should!

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: sst404b] #2075982
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Originally Posted By sst404b
Ritter block 4.185 x 4.0

Victor heads OOTB with clean up and valve job

60 mm cam .480 int .460 exh 1.6 rockers

Houghes big block victor rockers with fit spacers

1000 cfm throttle stop carb

15 to 1 comp

intake flow is 380 at .800

This is going in a super street 69 Barracuda 2800lb w/driver
looking for 10.90 @ 145 to 150 mph
It is being build by Allen Sherman at Trumble Racing


Should run that pretty easy... how many revs are you planning on
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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2075990
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Big MPH for a S/ST car. Cannot wait to see the results!!


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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076025
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The old W2 416 ran 10.90 @ 135-138 so using the numbers we think it should be in that 145-150 range. We did dyno the 440 with the W2 heads and made just under 700hp which was about 60 better then the 416 was,that is when we decided to try another head. The W2 intake flow was 316 @650 and was done, the Victors are still going at 800.We don't plan to run it past 7500 rpm because of the valve train.

Ray

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: sst404b] #2076032
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What is the actual measured rocker arm ratio on the engine? I know that the SB heads struggle to get decent rocker arm ratio so I'm wondering what you ended up with those heads and rocker arms.

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: AndyF] #2076052
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I see you said BB rockers.. I'd like to know how well
they fit on that head
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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2076085
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Looks good, good luck with it! Your the first that I know of that will have an engine running with these heads.

TD called today to let me know those heads will work with 48° blocks as well...


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The rockers actually measured 1.6 not sure why they wouldn't. Just a note they are not out of the box ready it took Allen 2 days of fitting and correcting clearance issues. If y'all have any issues give him a call he can get you everything you will need


1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076096
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Here is the intake work Allen did on the super victor

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1968 Cuda 440" Edelbrock Victor Head Small Block.
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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076098
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Hey,
The dude that did your intake has his stuff wired tight.

If I was a betting man, I'd bet my bottom dollar he gained you a fat 20 HP everywhere, and probably more.

Very VERY nice work. I wish you had an off the shelf manifold to do back to back testing.

Now that it look at it again, I'd bet 30 HP everywhere and more than that at peak.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076101
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Originally Posted By Jason B
The rockers actually measured 1.6 not sure why they wouldn't. Just a note they are not out of the box ready it took Allen 2 days of fitting and correcting clearance issues. If y'all have any issues give him a call he can get you everything you will need


BB rockers are usually long on the stem side..they come
real close to the outer edge of the stem...I had a set of
mis marked SB rockers that were actually BB ones and that
was how mine were anyways(they were Crane blue rockers)
EDIT
also whats the install height on your springs
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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: madscientist] #2076116
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Originally Posted By madscientist
Hey,
The dude that did your intake has his stuff wired tight.

If I was a betting man, I'd bet my bottom dollar he gained you a fat 20 HP everywhere, and probably more.

Very VERY nice work. I wish you had an off the shelf manifold to do back to back testing.

Now that it look at it again, I'd bet 30 HP everywhere and more than that at peak.


That's pretty damn good considering there's no CSA info about it! Wow...


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Originally Posted By ou812
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Hey,
The dude that did your intake has his stuff wired tight.

If I was a betting man, I'd bet my bottom dollar he gained you a fat 20 HP everywhere, and probably more.

Very VERY nice work. I wish you had an off the shelf manifold to do back to back testing.

Now that it look at it again, I'd bet 30 HP everywhere and more than that at peak.


That's pretty damn good considering there's no CSA info about it! Wow...


I'd put my money on me being correct. I've seen those gains just from correcting the plenum. Even moreso with the Strip Dominator.

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Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076130
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Wow that thing looks good. So glad this head is finally coming to fruition

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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076149
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Very nice. Cool to see all these new unchartered parts coming together.

Does anyone care to share their thoughts on how much more potential these heads have over a set of properly prepped 360-1 245's?

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Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: Jason B] #2076166
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four years after they hit the catalog..... with a wait time like that it truly should have had a Mopar part number. Hoping for the best!!! I was so excited at the possibility of running these.

Re: SB VICTOR ready for Dyno [Re: J_BODY] #2076169
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Do these heads use a stock type intake or what... I
see he has a victor intake but is that a stock bolt
pattern or a W type bolt pattern
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