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Re: 400-->500cui low deck combo question [Re: Flo] #2119822
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maybe stupid question, but: do the common 512cui kits with Chevy rod journals require an external oil pickup?
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Re: 400-->500cui low deck combo question [Re: Flo] #2119866
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Hughes Intake manifold comparison article for 440 intakes:

http://www.hughesengines.com/TechArticles/4portedintakemanifoldsupdated08272007.php

With a 512 a single plane works good, you will already have a ton of low end torque.

Re: 400-->500cui low deck combo question [Re: Flo] #2119896
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Originally Posted By Flo
maybe stupid question, but: do the common 512cui kits with Chevy rod journals require an external oil pickup?
Greets
Flo

Re: 400-->500cui low deck combo question [Re: Flo] #2119963
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Originally Posted By Flo
maybe stupid question, but: do the common 512cui kits with Chevy rod journals require an external oil pickup?
Greets
Flo


Can't speak to the B but on an RB block, the 4.25 crank with Chevy journals fit with internal pickup and NO grinding.


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Re: 400-->500cui low deck combo question [Re: 451Mopar] #2120408
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Originally Posted By 451Mopar
Hughes Intake manifold comparison article for 440 intakes:

http://www.hughesengines.com/TechArticles/4portedintakemanifoldsupdated08272007.php

With a 512 a single plane works good, you will already have a ton of low end torque.


I know that article. There was also a dyno shootout on a 383 I think in Car Craft or so. That is why I thought the Torker might be a good compromise.

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Re: 400-->500cui low deck combo question [Re: Flo] #2120628
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Originally Posted By Flo
maybe stupid question, but: do the common 512cui kits with Chevy rod journals require an external oil pickup?
Greets
Flo
No, you will have to grind a small amount off of the internal oil pickup boss to clear the #1 rod with or without the external or internal oil pickup shruggy
I like to use the 1970/71 6 quart stock street hemi and 440 six pak oil pan with the stock 440 6 pak 3/8 pickup on the cars like ours, 1966 B bodys up
I ran that set up on my old pump gas Duster and never had a problem with oiling that motor on the street or at the track except letting it get a quart low once at the track and having the oil pressure drop after letting off at the 1/4 mile tracks, that was at 127+ MPH and above work
I used a stock Mopar windage tray with a home made crankshaft scaper also thumbs


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Re: 400-->500cui low deck combo question [Re: Cab_Burge] #2120899
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I plan on using the Milodon #31580 Road Race pan. If possible with internal 1/2" pickup

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Originally Posted By Flo
maybe stupid question, but: do the common 512cui kits with Chevy rod journals require an external oil pickup?
Greets
Flo
No, you will have to grind a small amount off of the internal oil pickup boss to clear the #1 rod with or without the external or internal oil pickup shruggy
I like to use the 1970/71 6 quart stock street hemi and 440 six pak oil pan with the stock 440 6 pak 3/8 pickup on the cars like ours, 1966 B bodys up
I ran that set up on my old pump gas Duster and never had a problem with oiling that motor on the street or at the track except letting it get a quart low once at the track and having the oil pressure drop after letting off at the 1/4 mile tracks, that was at 127+ MPH and above work
I used a stock Mopar windage tray with a home made crankshaft scaper also thumbs

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Re: 400-->500cui low deck combo question [Re: Flo] #2121306
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I have had blocks modified for the 1/2 inch pickups , no more after having one crack the boss when installing the bigger 1/2 inch pickups down I'm sure the correct Mildon 1/2 inch pickup for that oil pan will work, make sure and check the clearance between the bottom of the pickup and the bottom of the oil pan scopeI don't know what Milidon recommends for the minumums, I would like to see less than 1/4 inch between them for my own use up


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