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Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: ccdave] #2070067
05/09/16 01:58 PM
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My gen 3 ultra is on it's way back from thumper's shop as I type. Going on the 540. He had to change a bunch of stuff.

Anybody want a pair of new Holley gen 3 blocks and bowls? Shiney alum color. $75 shipped via post office.

Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: ccdave] #2070068
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Brad,

Your right, I should have checked the secondary throttle blade position out of the box. From now on I will run everything I do on my car through you to make sure I don't forget things.

Thanks for your help as always.

Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: Thumperdart] #2070070
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Brad, it`s ok to get compliments................

Absolutely, and it sure sounds like you're getting a lot of positive feedback here from your work. up

Your sources of carb tuning information and my sources of carb information overlap significantly, so I understand why you take the approach you do for your customers' carbs. I take the same basic approach w/ my own stuff, which I've had a couple of other people on here test for me while my junk's still apart.

However, there's a herd mentality on here some fall into that "their guy" is the ONLY guy who can do the job right. I see it happen w/ references to engine builders, trans builders, cylinder head porters... and carb tuners.

My direct manner (ask my wife... or even my ex-wife) is to call bogus on those sort of claims. So, when I saw the statement that you are the ONLY guy who can deliver a carb w/ a usable OOB tune, my gut reaction was "Gimme a freakin' break."

Not intending to take away from the positive feedback & results you're receiving, but those sort of statements trigger my "reality check response". So, I said what I said.

Happy trails, carb dude! And don't ignore the drumhit for too long. I've had to put them aside, too, for a while as I've been recovering from shoulder surgery earlier this year, but am now back to making wood chips from drum sticks when the chance comes up. grin

Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: ccdave] #2070072
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Originally Posted By ccdave
Your right, I should have checked the secondary throttle blade position out of the box.

Yep. 'Cuz NOTHING can be assumed to be a true bolt-on these days... which I'm sure you already knew, right?

And, sorry, I don't have time to double-check the obvious for your stuff when I'm not making enough progress on my own.

But I understand your request for assistance and appreciate the vote of confidence!

Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: BradH] #2070073
05/09/16 02:10 PM
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I hear what you`re saying and my drive is to provide the "best that I can" service to anyone willing to give me a shot cos it damn sure isn't the money if you saw what I go through and the hrs. involved.........As far as drumming, zero desire at least for now and already sold a bad ass Gretsch Catalina Maple kit to a friend for $400............. realcrazy


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Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: Thumperdart] #2070077
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Well, I'd say my work is done here... whistling

Dom - I'll be PM-ing you at some point to discuss emulsion tuning w/ 4-hole & 5-hole metering blocks. work

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Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: BradH] #2070115
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Your work is NEVER done here Brad................. thumbs Call me anytime..............


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Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: AndyF] #2070122
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Originally Posted By AndyF
About 50/50. Sometimes I buy from Summit, sometimes Holley ships to me direct. The QF carb came direct from QF.

At the engine shop they have a little more problems with carbs out of the box. Typically the problem is with carbs that someone else has returned. Seems like Summit just tapes up the box and ships them back out. Last carb had the center hole stripped out which is a bad deal since the main body needs to be replaced. No way to fix that carb. But whoever took the return at Summit didn't flag the carb so it got shipped to the next guy.


Sadly that is typical for Summit , I bought a set of main bearings that someone had returned after removing them from the shrink wrap and just sticking back loose in the box, so they bounced around shipping back to summit, then sent to me. The were all dinged up and had fingerprints on them.

I cringe everytime I get a box from Summit.


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Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: ccdave] #2070135
05/09/16 03:31 PM
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Anyone that expects an OOTB mass produced carb to be perfect for each and every engine you choose to bolt it on...........well that's quite a reach. Most of our Dominators will be close OOTB box on most 500" and larger motors, because that is what they are tested on.

As far as ridiculous tune ups.........that's strictly a matter of opinion. The Holley production carbs performed VERY well against full custom rigs every year at the carb shootout. We used a production carb for a reason at those competitions, instead of a custom hand built unit. Our contest carbs were off the shelf, with only changes to brass as needed

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Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: BradH] #2070160
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Brad, no problem, I know how busy you are. Keep up the good work. You are the best. We are very proud of you!!!

Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: Monte_Smith] #2070171
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I'll agree on two circuit carbs. I've bolted a fair number of two circuit Dominators on race engines right out of the box and had them work just fine. (The dyno shop I work with is near sea level so we rarely need to even change jets)

Three circuit Dominator carbs are a different issue! Every one I've ever had was super rich right out of the box at part throttle. Either you can't run the engine at part throttle or you have to take a ton of jet out of them. No idea what the calibration folks at Holley are thinking on those carbs. I'm guessing they think those carbs are only used by guys who get towed to the starting line and leave on a 5500 stall?

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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Anyone that expects an OOTB mass produced carb to be perfect for each and every engine you choose to bolt it on...........well that's quite a reach. Most of our Dominators will be close OOTB box on most 500" and larger motors, because that is what they are tested on.

As far as ridiculous tune ups.........that's strictly a matter of opinion. The Holley production carbs performed VERY well against full custom rigs every year at the carb shootout. We used a production carb for a reason at those competitions, instead of a custom hand built unit. Our contest carbs were off the shelf, with only changes to brass as needed


I`m sure cars come to you done by a "known" builder that MAY be close but you do what YOU know that needs to be done to make it better. No different for me and carbs and the "wacky" yes, wacky over emulsified garbage and I`m sure you've even said, "What the hell were they thinking"..........Don`t lie, you've said it cos we ALL have at one point or another................


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Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: AndyF] #2070357
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Originally Posted By AndyF
I'll agree on two circuit carbs. I've bolted a fair number of two circuit Dominators on race engines right out of the box and had them work just fine. (The dyno shop I work with is near sea level so we rarely need to even change jets)

Three circuit Dominator carbs are a different issue! Every one I've ever had was super rich right out of the box at part throttle. Either you can't run the engine at part throttle or you have to take a ton of jet out of them. No idea what the calibration folks at Holley are thinking on those carbs. I'm guessing they think those carbs are only used by guys who get towed to the starting line and leave on a 5500 stall?



I agree. Seen nothing but problems with 3 circuit dominators.

Back in the late 90's we bolted an ootb 1150 2 circuit Dominator onto a 'so called of a pig' 509' hydraulic cammed, stock rockered, 11.4:1 CR rebuilt 446ci big block, with 'too big' 2 1/8 headers, hogged out 452 heads, MSD 7Al-2, torker intake, running on proper avgas... It didn't even have a big stall converter in it, fmrvb 727, no engine braking (dumb), with only a 2500 rpm converter.

I kid you all not, that above car ran in every rpm range as sweet as an EFI chevy LS1/2/3! It would start first click, idle somewhat like a roller head/cam 346ci LS1, and pull harder than one, could drive anywhere, the torque was insane and it would black track 295 street rubber from any speed under 60mph in 3rd gear! It was even somewhat fuel efficient at light cruising throttle, and would drain the fuel cell in no time at WOT!

I remember that 1150 carb so well that I just bought a new one recently the same, a 2 circuit 1150 (1x4). Im hoping that Holley has kept the basic design on this carb the same as back then and I don't have to go to EFI to get good driveability. That might be like hoping for a politician actually being 'for the people', but we'll see...

Re: Holley Ultra ready out of the box!!!!! [Re: ccdave] #2070604
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Just for comparison sake.

I bought a pair of 1150 ultras for a tunnel ram 572 hemi. They were spot on perfect saving going 2 numbers leaner on the mains, even though it ran fine on the 96's, it picked up a touch on 94's. Crisp throttle, nice idle, and clean to 8400rpm.

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