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73 Charger Front End Rebuild #206854
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Does this list look right for the rebuild of my Chargers front end?
2-Tie-Rod Adjusting Sleeve Spicer 4251010 C-Body Part
2-Inner Tie-Rod End Spicer 4011049 C-Body
2-Outer Tie-Rod End Spicer 4011047 C-Body

2-Upper Ball Joints Moog K7262N Threaded
2-Lower Ball Joints Moog K719 Threaded
4-Cam Bolts Spicer 6161013
1-Pitman Arm Spicer 4501028
1-Idler Arm Spicer 4501032
2-LCA Bushings Spicer 5651028 Rubber, just in case I mess up the sleeve in the arm currently

Just Suspension
Poly Strut Rod Bushings
Poly Control Arm Bushings LCA's and UCA's LCA's have no sleeve.

I already have the sway bar stuff. Do I really need new bump stops,torsion bar boots, or pivot shafts?
Does this seem complete?
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Re: 73 Charger Front End Rebuild [Re: bordin34] #206855
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Does this list look right for the rebuild of my Chargers front end?
Do I really need new bump stops,torsion bar boots, or pivot shafts?
Does this seem complete?
Dan


(1)I dont know b or c body part #s but it apears to be good. (2) no (3) yes & I would suggest rubber LCA bushings instead of poly which I think you said & you would not need to buy new cam bolt/nuts.


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Re: 73 Charger Front End Rebuild [Re: RapidRobert] #206856
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Any specific reasoning on rubber instead of poly?

Re: 73 Charger Front End Rebuild [Re: bordin34] #206857
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some people experience a lot of noise or squeeks from poly.... personally I have run them for years on one of my cars and very little noise if any... I will change my other car from rubber to poly on the next rebuild. my climent here in Texas might contribute to the low noise also.

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So the only real "problem" is noise. I think I will be able to deal with that. I have one more question for now, when I buy cam bolts, are they sold in pairs or individually. For the tools, I am hoping one of the auto parts stores near me has a loan a tool program thing.

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when I buy cam bolts, are they sold in pairs or individually.


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Re: 73 Charger Front End Rebuild [Re: bordin34] #206860
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I bet the K frame mount bushings are shot, you should get solid mounts to replace them.

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Thanks, now that I think of it the k-frame bushings are cracked. Does any place besides firm feel have the solid bushings. Also, while replacing them, can I do one at a time. Just take the bolt out of one rip out the bushing, insert new bushing, insert new bolt.
Edit I just found poly bushings at mancini, the price is way lower then Just Suspension, are there any issues with these?
http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/enconarmbuss1.html
http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/enstrutrodbu1.html

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Re: 73 Charger Front End Rebuild [Re: bordin34] #206862
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Are you sure you7 73 Charger uses cam bolts on the UCA ? I could of swore the UCA have a one piece shaft that goes through both UCA bushings. And th UCA is bolted to the frame bracket with 2 bolts that go through the one piece shaft. I could be wrong but that's the way it is on mine.

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/\ would be correct


Good catch, I have had my head under a A body too long

Re: 73 Charger Front End Rebuild [Re: BlakDak] #206864
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I think you are right, I should have remembered that since I was just under the car replacing the brakes.

Re: 73 Charger Front End Rebuild [Re: bordin34] #206865
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It threw me too as all I do are A bodies(with their 2 seperate cam bolt assy's on each UCA)


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Re: 73 Charger Front End Rebuild [Re: bordin34] #206866
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Does any place besides firm feel have the solid bushings.




If you go to this site...

Disco Mopars

...there is a tab at the top for parts. He makes them.


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Re: 73 Charger Front End Rebuild [Re: DynoDave] #206867
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Thanks, I have another question, will running C-body tie-rods ends and sleeves pose any problems and will they fit?

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the(c body) tie rod ends are the same dimention ex for the larger(threaded) dia. Compare the length of the C body sleeves to your orig sleeves & shorten the C body ones(I know they are longer than A body ones, not sure on B bodies)) or mock it up & see if you can duplicate your orig length(w sleeve & 2 tie rod ends assembled) & have enough thread engagement into the sleeve on each end.


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On the rubber vs poly LCA bushings, its NOT just a matter of noise. I tried them in my wagon, which has the same suspension as your Charger, and it handled TERRIBLE. It acted like I had bias-ply tires on it instead of radials. Also, when the suspension would unload, there would be a very loud CLUNK from the LCA.

I put the wagon up on a lift, poked around a bit, and realized the LCA's were moving back and forth on that poly LCA bushing. Not a lot, but enough to upset things.

Without making ANY changes other than swapping the LCA bushing back to rubber, the car drove/steered/handled 100% better and the clunk was gone too.


Admittedly, this was about 7 yrs ago. I don't know if anyone has devised a poly bushing setup that 'captures' the LCA like the rubber bushing does.


As for the K-frame isolators, I have solids in my wagon, You can change them out without tearing the car down. I did one side at a time. You don't want to pull all four bolts at once, just loosen the ones on the opposite side. Have the car on good jackstands, and have the K supported by a good floorjack. No need to pull the engine or anything BUT be sure to watch for places of contact or bind, like the fan to the fan shroud. Be sure to soak all four bolts for a day or two in advance with something like PB Blaster. When you go to torque the bolts for the K back up, be sure the weight of the car is on the K.

If the K-frame bolts aren't badly rusted, the isolator swap really isn't that hard.

Good luck!


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Re: 73 Charger Front End Rebuild [Re: SattyNoCar] #206870
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Thanks for the help. I will be getting poly bushings from energy suspension, hopefully they are improved, if not I will switch to rubber.
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