Got a question, i have the cage done in my dart.Now i think i need the sill bar but i have the x already installed.Can i put a couple of bends in it i could kick it out towards the door and be alright.Also the dash bar can it have bends in it also.Thanks

If you have stock rockers and floor,you don't need the sill bars. If the firewall is stock and not altered,you don't need a dash bar.

The dash bar can be bent but I don't think the sill bars can be. I wouldn't put them in if not necessary but that's just me.

Any bar can be bent as long as it's 1 5/8" (or whatever the spec calls for) or is not required to be there to pass cert. The crossbar in the main hoop is one they are funny about if it's smaller than 1 5/8". Not unusual to tweak the rocker bar out to the rocker panel. Dash bar can be bent.

Some more info or pics would be helpful. Stock body, floors, frame rails? Have to pass cert? How fast? Adding to existing structure and having it be legal can be difficult or even impossible, depending on what's already there.

The firewall has been replaced and the trans tunnel.The car is tubbed.Dont want to finish the car then have to add some bars would like to get the car in the 8s later on.

If the firewall and the trans tunnel's been replace with anything other than original metal, it needs a dash bar and rocker bar. The information in the NHRA rulebook will get you to 8.50. If you plan to EVER go quicker than that, make the car legal for the correct SFI spec 25.4 or 5 now. Cage/chassis needs to be assembled correctly. Not getting everything in correctly now may result in having to cut out a bunch of tubes later to make it right.

If more than 1 square foot of the firewall or the tunnel is removed(altered) then you need a dash or knee bar.If it has been altered and steel has been welded in you don't need it.If the stock rockers have never been altered then sill bars are not needed.

The center part of the floor and the rockers are stock.

JMO but I like the sill bars even if they arent required..
it has a better leverage to keep the twist out of the car
(farther from centerline).. I just tie them into the main
hoop and the knee hoop since both of those are at the outer
edge