Re: what are these for? Batt cable quest
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01/21/09 03:28 PM
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To and from solenoid/starting relay.
More specifically, the smaller red one will go the 'hot' terminal on the relay, (usually on the inner fender); then the gray one goes from the out terminal on the relay to the solenoid. When you turn the key it puts power to the control terminal on the relay and closes a contact connecting the two and energizes the solenoid which pulls in the gear drive to engage the starter and, once that's pulled in closes a contact at the solenoid to energize the starter motor.
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Re: what are these for? Batt cable quest
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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01/21/09 03:52 PM
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No way those are going to reach the starter... not on the one I have. I was thinking that as well. The old one did not have those leads. I just dropped the motor yesterday so nothing is hooked up yet.
I think you misunderstood. The extra wires don't go to the starter, they go to the firewall relay.
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Re: what are these for? Batt cable quest
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01/21/09 03:57 PM
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Huh??? The gray wire is molded into the end of the cable along with the direct power to the starter motor. The gray then splits out in the middle of the cable assy to hit the relay. Then the small red hooks to that relay also, different terminal, and rejoins the cable assy for the rest of the distance to the battery. i.e. - the relay is a relative midpoint between battery and starter and controls application of battery power to the starter. You HAVE to have something similar in any factory type configuration. Now if this is a track only car with a starter pushbutton on the dash, the previous does not apply. Also not applicable if it's a 1940's vintage auto with the starter button on the floorboards, in that case the gray and red would go to the two terminals on the floor button.
I know the one end that is molded into the cable goes to the realy on the fire wall. I was asking about the circled part. They seem to go mid-way between the fire wall and dash. In mo way would they be able to reach the starter. my engine bay looks lilke this one..well not yet but will. Notice the circled part, this is where the other grey and red split.
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Re: what are these for? Batt cable quest
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01/21/09 04:18 PM
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Yes, they split out of the cable assy in the middle. Like 440 said, those ends go to the relay. Now then, the other ends of them go; one to the starter (gray), and one to the battery (red). Notice on the molded rubber connector that goes to the starter, one large red (starter power) and the small gray (solenoid power). That small gray in that molded connector is the starter end of the gray that comes out in the middle. On the other end of the cable where the battery terminal is, coming out of that terminal is a large red, (starter power); and a smaller red - that smaller red is the other lead coming out in the middle of the cable. That smaller gauge wire red/gray is the power to the starter solenoid to actuate the starter and is switched in the middle by the relay with a color change of the wires to aid in identifying which end is which. I can't tell for sure from your picture, but I think I see a red wire ending just behind the brake booster - that may be where the relay is on your car.
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Re: what are these for? Batt cable quest
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01/21/09 05:29 PM
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No way those are going to reach the starter... not on the one I have. I was thinking that as well. The old one did not have those leads. I just dropped the motor yesterday so nothing is hooked up yet.
I think you misunderstood. The extra wires don't go to the starter, they go to the firewall relay.
That's what I thought at 1st but they don't look like they will reach, That or my battery will have to be moved back. I'll run out later and do a double check. They only reason I was thinking Hemi car, is I've seen some 66-67's w/ funky ford solinoids mounted on the fender.
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Re: what are these for? Batt cable quest
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01/21/09 07:52 PM
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Ok I was wrong...this is the one I got. It appears to be for a 70-74 E-body...that said I hit buy it now for a 68-70 B-body...that was a while ago...dammmmmmmmmmm.
these last cables pictured are for E-body with the starter relay mounted on the left inner fender.
And no they will not work on a 70 or older B-body without modifications
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