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TD/Jesel vs. stage V #199930
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Other than cost factor.... is there a performance advantage to using TD/Jesel rocker setup vs stock style Stage V/Indy style rockers. If no no performance advantage, why would I want to spend the extra money? Thanks

Re: TD/Jesel vs. stage V [Re: rustbucket] #199931
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The durabilty of the T&D and Jesel are unmatched.

I will never run Indy rockers again.

Re: TD/Jesel vs. stage V [Re: rustbucket] #199932
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Other than cost factor.... is there a performance advantage to using TD/Jesel rocker setup vs stock style Stage V/Indy style rockers. If no no performance advantage, why would I want to spend the extra money? Thanks




Alot of lesser rockers will work but soon as the
spring pressure is up thats where the better rockers
come into play. I dont know if its a better quality
of alum used and a better design but the Jesel and
T&D are the best out there

Re: TD/Jesel vs. stage V [Re: rustbucket] #199933
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Other than cost factor.... is there a performance advantage to using TD/Jesel rocker setup vs stock style Stage V/Indy style rockers. If no no performance advantage, why would I want to spend the extra money? Thanks


It depends on which parts your using and the use of those parts, IE NHRA SS/AH class racing or similar then you have to have the bsets parts to be competive, if it is a dailey driver(if a Hemi car ever is) then any brands including the stock rockers will work If it is a show poodle then you don't need any good parts at all, just as long as it will start and drive to where you want to show it The perforamnce advantage of using any good racing part is it does not fail in competion until it reaches it usable life span, which all race parts have. The cheap parts can kill you


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Re: TD/Jesel vs. stage V [Re: rustbucket] #199934
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Lots of good reasons to use the paired shaft rocker arms. For starters, they usually have a lot more options in terms of rocker arm ratios and offsets. Also, they use smaller shafts which allow them to have a smaller body which allows more room for big springs.

The quality of the parts is usually quite a bit higher and there are various options for the style of adjuster.

The rocker arm geometry is usually better since the stand height can be adjusted with flat shims rather than dorking around with a cast stand. The paired shaft systems are more rigid since they aren't whipping around on the cast stands.

When you assemble and disassemble the engine you rotate each cylinder to TDC and then pull the rocker shaft for that cylinder. That way you aren't pulling the threads like you have to do with a common shaft system.

Really, if you're going to get serious about making lots of power or spinning to a high RPM then there isn't even a debate about what rocker arm system to use.

Re: TD/Jesel vs. stage V [Re: AndyF] #199935
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The last motor I built made @650 hp at the rear wheels and we buzzed it to 8-8200 on occasion. We used standard issue hemi Indy rockers with no problems..... but from some of the posts I have seen here, it appears most people are not to crazy sbout their stuff?? I am starting from scratch and don't mind spending for better quality butI was hoping there might be a performance gain aswell

Re: TD/Jesel vs. stage V [Re: rustbucket] #199936
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I am starting from scratch and don't mind spending for better quality butI was hoping there might be a performance gain aswell


You will be pleasently suprised on how much more RPM your new motor will make power to with the good rocker set up like Jesels and some good quality single tapered pushrods


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Re: TD/Jesel vs. stage V [Re: Cab_Burge] #199937
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If were talking Hemi Rockers. Don'T forget about the DLI/MP stuff, they are stainless steel with roller tipped, and are plenty strong. I just check rocker geometry and its better than I thought. The exh is almost perfect, and the intake is very close too. I picked my stuff up off a board member for a song and a dance...(Thanks RATTRAP)



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