Steering Box causing the Wheel to turn...AGAIN
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01/14/09 02:30 PM
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I posted about a year ago that after dropping the steering column to get at teh cluster, the steering would turn, full lock, whenever the car started. While driving you gotta hold it from turning itself. You guys advised to loosen the two bolts on the Steering box and move. I never understood why dropping the column down a bit with detaching it from te Box caused this BUT It worked like a charm.
1970 valiant: Yesterday, My son had to drop the column again to take care of some electrical issues behind the Cluster(the 'U' clamp by the Dash and loosen the hardware at the Firewall). Put it back together and damned thing wants to make 'U' turns again. How can the slightest movement that the steering box splined end sees by letting the steering wheel drop down a bit cause such a problem? I think I'm out of adjustment in that direction too. Has anyone had this happen to them?
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Re: Steering Box causing the Wheel to turn...AGAIN
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01/14/09 03:21 PM
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I posted about a year ago that after dropping the steering column to get at teh cluster, the steering would turn, full lock, whenever the car started. While driving you gotta hold it from turning itself. You guys advised to loosen the two bolts on the Steering box and move. I never understood why dropping the column down a bit with detaching it from te Box caused this BUT It worked like a charm.
1970 valiant: Yesterday, My son had to drop the column again to take care of some electrical issues behind the Cluster(the 'U' clamp by the Dash and loosen the hardware at the Firewall). Put it back together and damned thing wants to make 'U' turns again. How can the slightest movement that the steering box splined end sees by letting the steering wheel drop down a bit cause such a problem? I think I'm out of adjustment in that direction too. Has anyone had this happen to them?
had one way years back..start car and it would "by it self" turn right..near took my arm off....
sounds like a issue with valve in steering box..... have you made any adjustments to it.....??
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Re: Steering Box causing the Wheel to turn...AGAIN
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01/14/09 03:54 PM
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the little piece on top of the power steering gearbox--held on by two bolts --where the hose attaches--be very careful to just loosen the bolts and "tap" that little piece with a plastic hammer--moving it just a fraction at the time ( with the thing running) and you can correct that problem--then tighten it up and you are ready to go--adjustment is very sensitive!
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Re: Steering Box causing the Wheel to turn...AGAIN
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01/14/09 03:58 PM
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He knows how to recenter it but wants to know why it changes out of the blue when the column is worked on.
I may be way off base but doesn't the input shaft on a power box have some in and out play that works along with the power assist???
If the column was reinstalled and the steering shaft was pushing the input shaft in, it might throw it out of adjustment????
Just guessing.
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Re: Steering Box causing the Wheel to turn...AGAIN
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01/14/09 04:27 PM
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He knows how to recenter it but wants to know why it changes out of the blue when the column is worked on.
I may be way off base but doesn't the input shaft on a power box have some in and out play that works along with the power assist???
If the column was reinstalled and the steering shaft was pushing the input shaft in, it might throw it out of adjustment????
Just guessing.
Thanks for sticking to the question. This is exactly what I was thinking. I was just hoping that someone would Post exactly that as the definite issue. There is play in the Firewall hardware to move it up and down a bit, that might just be enough to move that steering box shaft to cause this. That is, if that steering box shaft deals directly with teh valve setup. Has to be something like that, I'm two for two on dropping the column and having steering issues.
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Re: Steering Box causing the Wheel to turn...AGAIN
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01/14/09 05:13 PM
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I see absolutely no reason that dropping the column should make a difference on a setting that requires bolts to be loosened to make said adjustment. Maybe like stated that moving the shaft is changing the adjustment, but if thats the case then I would say your box is shot if you can move it that much as to change a setting that shouldnt be changed except for the correct way  The adjustment we are refering to is the "pivot lever" I had the same thing happen years ago on a car that someone unhooked the power steering from and when I hooked it up it went all the way to the right and broke the pivot lever.
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Re: Steering Box causing the Wheel to turn...AGAIN
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01/15/09 10:15 AM
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Here's another question, If I pull the bolts on this Pivot Lever all the way off and lift that casing Up, Is something going top fly out at me( springs)that I wont be able to reassemble? Although the adjustment went out each time after dropping the column, I was wondering if I might find a 'clump' of something in this old Box that I may be able to clean away and adjust the box once and for all.
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Re: Steering Box causing the Wheel to turn...AGAIN
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01/19/09 05:11 PM
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Thanks everyone. Last year when I did this, the wheel would spin to the Left. I recentered and all was good. Dropped the column again and reinstalled and it spun to the Right. So basically a few taps back to where it was originally and all is good. Still makes no sense. BUT my son is happy.
Last edited by Tony H; 01/19/09 05:12 PM.
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