Maybe you don't but I do, His car Top Notch and has been around Divison 1 for a while.
SS/BM Richard Kay 8.67 He set record at the Dutch for his class.

Would it be too big of a a stretch to say the drive-train soaks up 20 HP?

If you don't start from scratch, like already 600hp with a set of -1 heads

How much more you have to spend to be in the 800hp range ?

Dan

so we don't believe dyno number, we don't believe calculated numbers.... So should the title of this thread be "Cost of an X mph N/A small block?" ??

...figured a turbo guy would have to ask "why?".

I do read these posts, but apparently not everyone here does. No where in Brian's post did he mention inline valves, canted valves, single four, dual four tunnel rams or any other exclusion.

This is my take, 900HP, NA, small block and carb to pan. Please point out what I missed. Here is a copy and paste.

"Mopar guys seem to have a reputation of being "cheap" in general, but I know some of us that are not.

I'm just trying to get a feel from some on this board on what they think 900 hp should cost in a N/A small block...carb to pan. I know there are other options for 900 hp that might be cheaper, but thats for another topic.

There are a few here that know the answer to this question, but would like to hear from a few that haven't been down this road yet."

You said it all with this. "I do read these posts, but apparently not everyone here does. No where in Brian's post did he mention inline valves, canted valves, single four, dual four tunnel rams or any other exclusion"

You can multiply TQ with lower gears to get more TQ, you can not do that with HP. You have to get more HP to go faster. Very simple concept but so out of grasp of so many. That being said I prefer not having to gear my car so low to go fast so I tend to want lats of cubes in a small package.

you said Ozzy Pro Stock and comp you never said anything about pro stock truck unless I missed it

Monte if you read the original question how much does it cost to build a 900 horsepower small block you're the one exempting rpm and cubic inches and comp motors and Aussie Prostock has nothing to do with the original question come back we will put more salt in your wound.. I could build 900 horse all day long for 25/30 grand with a good set of 8s or 9s CNC programs have cut the cost significantly on this type of motor... the biggest problem with A Mopar is block availability

Take that and put a 3.60-3.80 stroke in it and it might be more of beast but the 9" deck kinda limits things.

Thanks for asking the question Brian

Since the question was " what they think a 900 hp na sb should cost" Ill stand by 26k and not a penny more

You guys get poor Monte so worked up

I agree with you

FWIW I know of Rich's car as well. I am also sure he will concur an SS motor built to BM standards is no cheap piece to build. Could also easily be run in Comp but that is DEEP water for sure in what would be a B/SMA or even A/SMA deal likely, based on similar cars I have seen that run both and depending on cubes. Those are some mighty impressive SB's for sure. Also not run of the mill by any means. Rich's car is very impressive to say the least and doing it in a class full of late model Cobalts, G6's etc it is even more so.

I don't know...what should it cost, 25K-50K? What is someone willing to pay might be a more pertinent question.

I've never really looked at the price of entry as the be all, end all...what I really want to know is, how much does it cost to race, and maintain?

Would it be a valve springs every 10 passes engine? What's the life expectancy of say... rockers, valves, lifters, piston rings, bearings?

Not being sarcastic, I'm completely serious, because this is where the true cost of an engine manifests itself, not the sticker price to bring it home!

Putting a price tag on an engine such as this is near impossible. Some guys do nothing and the smart ones do everything. It cost BIG money to pay someone to do everything.

Build an AMC with FBS heads...

This whole thread is nutz. Guys saying they can build 900 with w8-w9's all day long, really. I don't know if you guys pay attention but many of these dyno champs do not even run 150 in a 3000 lb car on good days. A 900 HP build should trip 150 in the worst air. On a good day should run close to 158. If it doesn't either you have a car problem or a dyno operated that is doing something wrong. If same guy built it and took your money he needs a bruised eye.

If you know where the deals are and have some luck you could build for $10k. I did it once with my 457cid in 2000 with 100% American parts. Shops wanted $35,000 to $60,000.

Blocks and good cnc work is where you get creamed. Between Arrington selling me a block for $1,500 and Davis doing the block work I only had $3,000 in the block. Patterson sold heads to me and flat hooked me up on parts. The rockers I got in a trade that cost me $100. Point I'making this just never happens. Five years later I built a 421 cid. The block I got for $600 and did not need the cam tunnel bored and still ended up $10K through a shop. Lucky I had the top end already.

And you wonder why I went R5. Little hard work doing headers, fitting drysump, and an adapter done. People complain about adapter. I designed a bell. Tubular k fits dry sumps. And most people have headers built. 830hp out of a 358. EEI will build 1,000hp for $60,000. I'm sure Frank Lysing and others will do for less. My pockets are not that deep. And my stuff only makes 900 based on mph. But, was cheap for me.

I paid 2400 for machine work done on a virgin block from Charlie Westin cam tunnel 60 mm w berrings,lifter bores bushed,bored,honed,decked.
Holy shishkabob 9600 for block work on a 600 dollar block.

I know where you can get a bunch of R3 with W8 Comp stuff for quite reasonable. A very dedicated and smart man has been trying to make it work in Comp for years and just couldn't do it. He was north of 750 on 300'ish inches, and over $20k in dyno time.

Frankly, these kinds of projects, you need to start with a blank check and lots of crying towels. 900HP is just an arbitrary number, what do you want to do with the engine? What are the rules? S/F....Ken M