Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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Elite dressed up as as "Dodge" ball team at Vegas yesterday. Further hints they're going to field AJ's cars next year?
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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Is it OK if I wait 'til the Winternationals to believe what's actually gonna happen?
I am with you. When the dust settles and the new cars show at Pomona, we will have a better idea what is in store for 2016. With the rule changes in Pro Stock (FI, scoops, smaller or no wheelie bars, etc.) should be different at least.
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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For the record: Vincent Nobiles family business is trucking as in dump trucks on Long Island and Mountain View is not his families business but are his primary sponsor a chain of tire and auto service centers in California owned by the Matos family. Good Luck to A.J. and his father no matter what their intentions are, a top notch, professional and personable team.
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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Why purchase the Dodges unless there is some ulterior motive? Two totally different combinations make 10 times as much R&D, unless they have factory support or enough engine customers to make it profitable. If the rumor about engine blocks is true, that makes even less sense.
I also have wonder how much Jegs will be involved, financially and time wise.
Danny Not if a boat load of blocks is included in the deal. Jeggie doesn't have to worry about losing his sponsor, unlike most everyone else. Still makes no sense unless they are getting factory backing. Adding a totally different engine program will easily add 2 million a year to their budget, mostly for R&D. I didn't think Elite gas a very large budget to start with. Danny
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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Pretty sure Elite would not be switching to Dodge unless Mopar is writing a BIG check...EE has not a permanent sponsor...
Look at it this way ...they are getting EE you got to be the most popular driver at this time. 2 time champ who any other Dodge would be chasing...
..Jeggy also a very popular driver..
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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Elite has already been scrounging for blocks. This was part of the reason for the rift between them and McGaha a few weeks ago.
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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Why purchase the Dodges unless there is some ulterior motive? Two totally different combinations make 10 times as much R&D, unless they have factory support or enough engine customers to make it profitable. If the rumor about engine blocks is true, that makes even less sense.
I also have wonder how much Jegs will be involved, financially and time wise.
Danny Not if a boat load of blocks is included in the deal. Jeggie doesn't have to worry about losing his sponsor, unlike most everyone else. Still makes no sense unless they are getting factory backing. Adding a totally different engine program will easily add 2 million a year to their budget, mostly for R&D. I didn't think Elite gas a very large budget to start with. Danny Since we are all about Rumors in Pro unstock cars, and everyone keeps assuming it would be a completely new engine program to go with Dodge. Me thinks it would be more along the lines of Dodge getting a new head approved that would fit conveniently fit the chvrlet block. All they have to do is be sure the plugs still go into the valve convers. Problem solved.
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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I would'nt sponsor something that didnt have ANY of my parts on it either. But Chevy and Toyota do.
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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Pretty sure that EE's husband Ritchie Stevens was testing a (and intended as a blocker car?) Mopar sponsored Dart(possibly a Rick Jones i.e., part of Elite built AJ back-up car) for Elite earlier in the year.
Maybe they were exploring the possibility way back when and at the same time developed R&D tuning and seat time in the Dart.
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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No blocker car needed, championship handled, Ritchie is on the entry list for Pomona. Alan Johnsons cars are from Haas. With RJ building Elites cars I am sure they will have New Darts from RJ Race Cars for next year. Elite will need engines and parts to begin a Dodge program.
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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Richie is driving Derek Kramer car at Pomona..
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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Couple of interesting comments post over at Nhra event notes..
Roy Johnson (pictured) of J&J Racing said, "I've been spending most of my time just gathering parts, so we're a little behind. But I've been told that we have just about everything we need now, so I hope that we can have an engine together by next week, and our plans are to start testing the car with the new engine early next year."
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Richard Freeman’s Elite Motorsports team will be taking on the task of fielding two different engine programs for 2016 – Mopar Hemis for Erica Enders and Jeg Coughlin Jr. and big-block Chevys for Drew Skillman and Vincent Nobile – but he doesn’t foresee any major problems.
“We have an excellent platform to work with as the guys in my engine department developed a very good engine program for Jeg in 2012,” said Freeman. “The power bands of those engines were a little bit lower back then, which might make it a little bit easier for us to conform to the rev-limiter rule.
“I really don’t believe that there are that many major differences between the two styles of engines, and if there are any, my guys are smart enough to get things figured out.
“The biggest issue that we are facing is the parts situation for the Mopar engines. There’s a shortage right now that we’re having to deal with. We have some of the pieces now, but we are waiting for some more.”
Freeman expects that his first Mopar engine will be ready to go on the dyno at the end of December, and the cars will be tested right before the season-opening Circle K NHRA Winternationals.
Tony
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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former J&J crew chief mark Ingersoll already works for elite so they will be up to speed pretty quick I would think
I hope roy and aj can still be involved running something mopar - big fan of roy for sure
ooopss - sorry, didn't see slantzilla already mentioned ingersoll
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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Hopefully Roy and Allen can get something together. It would be cool to see them build and race a SS/AH hemi car. Ron While cool maybe......very impractical, from a business standpoint, which their program is. The AH program is crazy expensive for a top runner, with basically ZERO exposure. No sponsors to be had there. On a side note, the Johnson's were supposedly going to announce a new sponsor at Pomona. That didn't happen, which is probably not a good sign
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Re: Mopar pulling out of Pro Stock
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Hopefully Roy and Allen can get something together. It would be cool to see them build and race a SS/AH hemi car. Ron While cool maybe......very impractical, from a business standpoint, which their program is. The AH program is crazy expensive for a top runner, with basically ZERO exposure. No sponsors to be had there. On a side note, the Johnson's were supposedly going to announce a new sponsor at Pomona. That didn't happen, which is probably not a good sign I agree that from a business standpoint its not practical and I understand it. But many in racing dont make out well money and business wise. Sometimes it would be cool just to do something because you like it even though it will most likely cost you money and I know many racers race cars that loose them money but they do it because they love to race a certain class or car. Heck I loose money just driving my Mopar around but I do love it. Its just that I like the SS/AH cars alot as they are door cars that love to watch. And as I said it would be cool to me but I know its not practical for them. It would be more of a sideshow hobby for them if they did it. I am curious to see how Pro Stock goes with the new rules as it could turn out to be a cool deal but I dont know how it will go. Ron
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