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check out this fake buildsheet on this 69 Hemi RR #190638
01/11/09 05:16 PM
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just looking at this car and saw this horrible horrible fake buildsheet.
why would anyone think this could pass for a authentic piece of documentation. i wonder what else is fake on this 69 hemi Roadrunner.
loks like darryl in sedona Az. is at it again.

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Re: check out this fake buildsheet on this 69 Hemi RR #190639
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Can you post a pic of it?

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Maybe he had a copy made to put out at shows ect and still has the real one?
It is not like it is agaist the law to make new build sheets or fender tags.

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just looking at this car and saw this horrible horrible fake buildsheet.
why would anyone think this could pass for a authentic piece of documentation. i wonder what else is fake on this 69 hemi Roadrunner.
loks like darryl in sedona Az. is at it again.




Darryl does much better work than that.

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just looking at this car and saw this horrible horrible fake buildsheet.
why would anyone think this could pass for a authentic piece of documentation. i wonder what else is fake on this 69 hemi Roadrunner.
loks like darryl in sedona Az. is at it again.




Darryl does much better work than that.


for 400-600 bucks he should

Re: check out this fake buildsheet on this 69 Hemi RR #190643
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you'll be getting either a threatening email or a thanks for the free advertising from the D man ... or both ...

but then again so will I ...

Re: check out this fake buildsheet on this 69 Hemi RR [Re: I go fast] #190644
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just looking at this car and saw this horrible horrible fake buildsheet.
why would anyone think this could pass for a authentic piece of documentation. i wonder what else is fake on this 69 hemi Roadrunner.
loks like darryl in sedona Az. is at it again.




Darryl does much better work than that.




Thats what I was thinking, though I have no personal knowledge & plan to keep it that way....

Re: check out this fake buildsheet on this 69 Hemi RR [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #190645
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It is not like it is agaist the law to make new build sheets or fender tags.




Actually there is, the Chrysler corp logo and other copyrighted markings are on broadcast sheets, duplicating them (for sale) without Chryslers consent/licensing is a crime.

Re: check out this fake buildsheet on this 69 Hemi RR [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #190646
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It's to bad the originals were not that nice.

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BTW I just got a PM from Daryl confirming it isn't one of his...

But as a caution to those of you out there that think all fake broadcast sheets are that obvious have a look at this one...

Re: check out this fake buildsheet on this 69 Hemi RR [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #190648
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BTW I just got a PM from Daryl confirming it isn't one of his...

But as a caution to those of you out there that think all fake broadcast sheets are that obvious have a look at this one...




True.....

While that one is pretty obvious, slso don't just assume that if it looks near perfect, it's a fake. I know of one sheet that looks so perfect, most folks would swear it was fake.

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BTW I just got a PM from Daryl confirming it isn't one of his...

But as a caution to those of you out there that think all fake broadcast sheets are that obvious have a look at this one...




To me the font looks off on this sheet buy what else am i missing here?
i also think it looks too uniform.

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Which car & where is it for sale (assuming that's the purpose of the BS - no pun intended, but I'll take the credit, thank you)? I would think eBay or whoever might want to know about it if it's on their site.

Re: check out this fake buildsheet on this 69 Hemi RR [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #190651
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It is not like it is agaist the law to make new build sheets or fender tags.




Actually there is, the Chrysler corp logo and other copyrighted markings are on broadcast sheets, duplicating them (for sale) without Chryslers consent/licensing is a crime.


sorry Scott i was having an off day.
To me the fender tags are just a datea tag and did not have the penta star logo so even though it is not moraly right it was not agaist the law like making a VIN Tag would be{for many reasons}
And I was talking about the Build sheets from the point of taking Darrel on his word of his sheets not being reproduced! That in fact they are factory orginals that are blank he has {so only him and god knows if that true} So I was giving him the benifit that he is telling the truth about that. Plus.............................................
One day I might make a hemi car out of cardboard,fibber glass and bondo and need a sheet


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To me the font looks off on this sheet buy what else am i missing here?
i also think it looks too uniform.




Every example shown here is easily recognized as a fake. The font (secondary print) is completely obvious and incorrect. The primary blue print is also a bad attempt at trying to recreate the original artwork. There are MANY small characteristics in the broadcast sheet (primary print) that make a fake easy to identify. It is those small details that will make one stand out like a sore thumb.
If either one of these samples are from this guy in Arizona, I can 100% guarantee that his are NOT originals but ones that are trying to be passed off as the real thing.

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Every example shown here is easily recognized as a fake. The font (secondary print) is completely obvious and incorrect. The primary blue print is also a bad attempt at trying to recreate the original artwork. There are MANY small characteristics in the broadcast sheet (primary print) that make a fake easy to identify. It is those small details that will make one stand out like a sore thumb.
If either one of these samples are from this guy in Arizona, I can 100% guarantee that his are NOT originals but ones that are trying to be passed off as the real thing.





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Re: check out this fake buildsheet on this 69 Hemi RR [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #190654
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Besides that it doesn't have the rusty seat spring imprints on it!~

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There are better fakes out there, some aremuch better in fact. However, there's nothing out there that's undetecable if a knowledgable person studies it.

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Besides that it doesn't have the rusty seat spring imprints on it!~




Not all of the broadcast sheets are found in the rear seat backs. I agree "most" of them are because they are captured there but again not all.


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There are better fakes out there, some aremuch better in fact. However, there's nothing out there that's undetecable if a knowledgable person studies it.




Scott, keyword "knowledgable" and that is about 2% of us, me included and the more that is pointed out what the fake telltales are the better the fakers get at making them............

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Which is exatly why you won't see me posting any details online. Some fakes are VERY good, but "Very" isn't "Exact" and as long as they have flaws, they'll be detecable. There's also more scientific ways to prove it beyond cosmetics and the info they contain (bad codes etc.), chemical analysis of the ink and paper, spectrographs, etc. If it ever got ugly and went to court there are plenty of ways to rat out the fakes, it's just harder than it used to be that's all.



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