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FBO Ign System? #1881357
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anyone run this set up?


stock hook u with a rev limiter built in?

Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1881369
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I talked with Don when I ordered his book & advance limiter plate kit.

Very Interesting chat with this guy. I know what NOT to say to the guy for sure now.

his book is a very good read. and the limiter plate seems spot on.

Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1881429
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nobody?

I would have thought someone had read the book or something?

Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1881460
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I talked to Don way back & yes he's an interesting guy to talk to. His coil was leaking oil out of the top right off the bat & I got sick & sat on the project for a year then called him & he said I should tighten the screw & I replied that a coil should not be leaking at all & he graciously sent me another one for free & for all he knew I coulda been driving it for a year before it went out (kudos to him for his generousity). But it gets worse, the one he sent me lasted for several months before it started missing on the way home one day & then an hour later going down the road it died completely & blew up the muffler with a loud bang as I coasted to the side of the road. That's been my FBO experience. Just me I dont agree with his timing procedure but his limiter plate sounds like a good deal. PS yes I was using a very generous ballast (1.6 ohms)


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Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1881482
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I had one of his older kits several years back, that I was not impressed with at all.
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Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1881705
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I do like his advance bushings for the MSD distributor.

Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1881852
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still have one of the older kits,sitting in a box on the shelf.

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The circuit board for the 688 box ix made by Daytona Sensors. You could look them up. Seems like a professional bunch of guys.

Obviously Don is at the mercy of whoever builds his coils.

I like the solid coils like what ford used with the TFI ignitions. A few years ago I bought some new takeoffs on Ebay. I am also using my Jacobs chrome coil, but try to find one of those.

For a round coil I'd think the MSD Blaster type would be good, they are big enough to have some clout with whoever builds their coils.

My favorite ignition is still the Accel 300+ with its own coil, but not poduced any more. Crane boxes have a very good reputation as well.

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Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1885800
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I have spoke with Don after I was using his ignition system. It has worked flawlessly. He says it is better than the Chrysler Chrome box. But from the drivers expires cd, you would not know the difference in performance between most ignitions anyway.

The engine ran very well and the plugs stayed clean. That is also part of tuning mind you but also an ignition that is weak will show itself there.

I have had it on the car 6 years.

Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1885956
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I've always heard 50/50 feedback about Don and FBO. Even so, I decided to go with a complete ignition setup from him and (as far as I know) he gave me a decent deal. Got the DAYTONA CD-1 Box, a locked out distributor and E-Coil (cant remember the e-coil brand) as well as brass cap/rotor.

I've had it for a couple months on the shelf waiting for my new engine to finally get fully assembled (waiting on a couple exhaust components, radiator, tran rebuild, and gas tank.)

Its been a while so I've forgotten all the features but the Daytona igntion Hooks up to a laptop and can 3d map your timing and nitrous timing, and you can program different curves like one for city driving, racing and have it retard for when you hit the nitro. It can retard up to 20 degrees if I remember correctly.

Anyways, I hope it works as cool as it sounds. Im not sure I should use it to break in the engine though, Ive never used an ignition like this before. I might just hook up the dizzy to a parts store ignition box and coil for the break in and then switch to the FBO box when my engine is out of the danger zone



Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1885974
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I have a customer that bit and spent the $$ on a big block setup. Stock 69, 440 magnum.
I will just say I was not impressed with the advance curves, or the way they went about achieving them. NUFF SAID, whistling shruggy

Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: TJP] #1886950
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Originally Posted By TJP
I have a customer that bit and spent the $$ on a big block setup. Stock 69, 440 magnum.
I will just say I was not impressed with the advance curves, or the way they went about achieving them. NUFF SAID, whistling shruggy


What exactly do you mean by big block setup?

Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1886997
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I spoke with Don yesterday and ordered the kit with the book, springs and advance limiter plate for a friend of mine that runs a Dart Sport 360 in a class called Car Club Challenge here at Bremerton Raceway and Pacific Raceway. My friend has a modified 360 with the original unmodified distributor, some (MSD) add ons and other "tricks of the week". I am expecting his book and the distributor mods to make a difference. Subtle changes are easy and cheap to make and hardly anyone of us really needs "Arc Welder Ignition Systems", just proper timing and a clean spark at the plugs.

Of course, he also needs some fresh race tires, but that is not my problem

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Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1887012
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well I am still reading the book for the 3x and the carb base line is..well, interesting.

I just got the plate installed on my 440 truck running the whiplash cam while waiting on the firecore dist to return.

I used the 2 silver springs and drop the plate on the 18* slots

I set base timing at 18* + 18* mech advance for a total of 36* with vac pod capped off.

man does it fry the tires now runs really well for a set of points with the accel points supper stock coil.

now I idle at 900 rpm drop in gear to a 750 pulling a steady 10" on vac

choppy chop at a red light with no stinky exhaust smell, the carb was way better with some adjusting it.

has snappy off idle throttle response now which is AWSOME!

I orderd another set for my 318 roller whiplash which I have a points dist with a pertronix points conversion. I am sure it will improve it and clean up the idle stinky smelling exhaust on it.

best 40$ I spent this yr IMHO.

Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: Adam71Charger] #1887024
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Quote:
What exactly do you mean by big block setup?
the dist, a big block dist either a low deck one (383/400) or a high deck one (440/413) & lower shaft length is the (only) difference between the two


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Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: Adam71Charger] #1887238
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Originally Posted By Adam71Charger
Originally Posted By TJP
I have a customer that bit and spent the $$ on a big block setup. Stock 69, 440 magnum.
I will just say I was not impressed with the advance curves, or the way they went about achieving them. NUFF SAID, whistling shruggy


What exactly do you mean by big block setup?


The "package' he bought was supposed to be tuned and tweaked for his application.

The timing and advance curves setup in that distributor were BEYOND CONSERVATIVE, IE: think a pig performance and mileage wise. which is what it was, Think overheating to boot.
whistling twocents

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Quote:
What exactly do you mean by big block setup?


The "package' he bought was supposed to be tuned and tweaked for his application. [quote] Oh OK it was a BB dist supposedly curved for his app


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Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: RapidRobert] #1889050
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panic run away !!
I guess the limit platesare cool , but ..
Dont use his coils..

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Originally Posted By sogtx
panic run away !!
I guess the limit platesare cool , but ..
Dont use his coils..


What trouble did you have with the coil? Leak, die, or ...

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I'm old so I can repeat myself.....Don is at the mercy of whoever is building his coils. He is a very small market and the chances of him getting a coil manufacturer to listen to him, or even worry about what he thinks, are slim.

As a small business he can't just eat inventory.

I don't agree with everything he does or says but he is at least in the market trying to render a service as well as promote our way of life.

R.

Re: FBO Ign System? [Re: dogdays] #1892511
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Repeat all you want
Attitude after the sale creates repeat business.
He cc'd me by mistake on a forward of an email to his
supplier ... previous sale where i found
a couple problems with his stuff... Wasnt pleasant.
Customer satisfaction and his shi tty coils
But the plates are cool...
Why dint i think of thAt.

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Quote:
He cc'd me by mistake on a forward of an email to his
supplier ... previous sale where i found
a couple problems with his stuff... Wasnt pleasant.

But the plates are cool...
Why dint i think of thAt.
He was bad mouthing a customers' complaint (you in this case) to his supplier and inadvertently sent a copy of that to you? Major faux paw (sp) on his part! Yes the plate is innovative but for $25 I'll make one myself


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