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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
[Re: cdp]
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01/05/09 07:32 AM
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They do have the Nostalgic race here. Chrysler Classic was coming here, but I think quit.
Last year (07), there were a couple of FAST cars. A hemi challenger from KS and I think a Yenko camaro from MO and possibly a mustang. They got rained out just as they were at the line. And that was the race I wanted to see. 08 didn't have any FAST cars. Gateway is about 250 miles from KC, which isn't so bad.
Hey cdp, that was us in the Yenko...that KC event is cool, but it's kind of a circus with 400-500 cars, so the FAST/Pure Stock guys are kind of a side show and get lost in the mix...but you can't get enough numbers for an event outside the Michigan border to help cover track costs for a true FAST/Pure Stock dedicated event. Anyway, there's been about a dozen of us guys run @ KC the past 2 years, though...
Rob Clary
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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
[Re: Chevy454]
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01/06/09 05:23 PM
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You can disregard my comments earlier. I thought we were talking about IHRA Pure Stock. It's basically what NHRA Stock was back in the early 1970s. It also has a limited following.
Floyd Lippencott IV
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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
[Re: Chevy454]
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01/06/09 05:41 PM
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If I really had the gonads, I'd race my A12 RR. Its an all #'s car that I'm in the process of restoring, so I can't risk it.
LOL...might as well, you could join the other 6 or 8 that show up every year! 
I plan on racing my #'s 6 pack car this year.  although, like you, there is no Pure Stock event anywhere near me. Oh well, I'm sure people at the local track will think I'm crazy, but what the heck, that's what these cars were built for, right!
I have no delusions of keeping up with guys like Rob, Jim, Bob and the others though. 
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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
[Re: cdp]
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01/06/09 09:17 PM
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If I really had the gonads, I'd race my A12 RR. Its an all #'s car that I'm in the process of restoring, so I can't risk it.
cdp
My Bee is #'s matching plus original paint and interior. Bring the A12 out you'll have a blast!
Rob, got to meet you at Atlanta in Oct 2004 when you were racing the Camaro and I was running the Bee. Nice to see you have stepped up the performance of the Yenko since then! Good Job!
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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
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01/07/09 03:36 PM
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Wasn't that event a rain out the final day, maybe? I remember leaving Saturday evening for some reason...??
That was the event! we ran on Saturday because of a threat of rain on Sunday.
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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
[Re: cdp]
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01/07/09 03:48 PM
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Well, the short block was already rebuilt when I got it in trade. A real 70 HP 383 thats .040 over. I nice rebuild with receipts, forged pistons, etc. But not balanced or anything.
If it cost 3-5k to get the motor to purestock specs, it may be just as fun and cheaper to do build basically as stock appearing and have fun at the local track.
I'm just now getting started and want to get a feel for what is needed since I've never really checked into it this deep and havn't dragged raced before, but always wanted too.
Thanks for all the input!
buy a set of speedpro 2315's , they are CH at 1.920 , the TALLEST 383 piston available off the shelf , make sure to have the block rehoned wit ha torque plate for MAX ring seal . The weight is roughly the same as the stock cast piston , mill the block .011 to get your .004 in the hole .
It's going to cost about the same to deck the block and cut the valley end rails and intake as changing the pistons and decking the block .
sorry if someone beat me to this , i've been away on holiday
running up my post count some more .
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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
[Re: cdp]
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01/07/09 03:52 PM
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Did the deck heigth from the factory have quite a bit of tolerance when they were being built?
Many claim they are but I have yet to see these MYTHICAL blocks , maybe they power UNICORNS ?
What is the number on the piston currently in the block ?
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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
[Re: cdp]
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01/07/09 03:55 PM
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This sounds like way too much hassle since you aren't class racing.
A nice idea but why not just do the easy way(s) and go faster?
This is where the delimma for me is. I could add stealth heads, a stock appearing aluminum intake, a comp. series TQ, shave 200#s off the car and spend about the same $$, look stock, and go faster.
But....
Then its not quite as challenging.
It would be nice to do the Purestock build, but there are no events in the KCMO area. All of them seem to be 500 miles away.
The shortblock isn't the expensive part , having the HEADS done to be PURESTOCK LEGAL IS the expensive part .
the purestock drags is 800 plus miles one way for me , I'd love it top ONLY be 500 miles away , then maybe I would actually go again ...
But I'd have to have my car together first 
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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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01/07/09 03:57 PM
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i'm not really sure how you'd end up with a set of TRW L2315's down the hole .100+, unless the block was MUCH taller than the 9.98" spec.
as i recall, i decked my block around .035 to get the pistons to .018 above the block(crank stroked to 3.388).
based on your current deck clearance, assuming a typical BB OE chamber volume of 88cc's, and using a steel shim head gasket.....you'd be at about 7.8cr right now.
Dwayne , my guess is he has 2257's in that motor , I just passed on a 383 last week with those pistons , .100 in the hole ...
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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
[Re: JohnRR]
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01/07/09 04:29 PM
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the purestock drags is 800 plus miles one way for me , I'd love it top ONLY be 500 miles away , then maybe I would actually go again ...
But I'd have to have my car together first
try 3,000 miles!
BTW, I was wondering where you got to! 
What's so expensive with the heads? milling, decent valves and springs and a good 3 angle valve job, right? What am I missing?
Dave
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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
[Re: scatpacktom]
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01/07/09 05:19 PM
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I would think you could get a 383 to go into the 12s in the right car on a razor tune 
I wish there were more guys running them
Tom,
I think JohnRR's Dart might be the perfect car for it as it is a heck of a lot lighter than my tank. (I would think about 400 to 500 lbs lighter)
Like you said build a spec'ed 383 and throw some gear in it (4:30's or 4:56's ) and a low, low 13's maybe a 12 would be a possibility.
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Re: anyone run a Purestock/NHRA Blue print 383-B-body?
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01/07/09 06:57 PM
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Yeah John, tell us what is so expensive about the heads? Just stock heads right?
Don't know ask Dwayne , I just give him bare castings and he sends me the bill , I pulled the last set I was doing back before he could get started on them .
But you are correct , at my pace don't anyone be waiting on me to give the results .
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