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Re: 1970 rr help [Re: hemipowered2] #179776
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I'd measure the distance from the rear crossmember,to the hole in the frame rail,where the shackle mount, on both Road Runners,and see if there the same distance,that should tell you if the replacement rails are correct,compared to the car that the springs fit in correctly.


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Re: 1970 rr help [Re: chargervert] #179777
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i bought espo 1" over leal springs for my 70 road runner,found easiest way to install was loosly mount the front of the leaf springs with the one through bolt,leaving the back of the springs on the floor,rolled my rear under car and bolted the U clamps on each side,with a floor jack i jacked up the rear and bolted up the shackles,although they appeared slightly leaning forward once everything else was mounted they relaxed and i loosed jounced and retightened. i can take some measurements if you need,my frame is original. good luck Darren

Re: 1970 rr help [Re: meepmeep70] #179778
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I am using the +2" set from Espo. The rear just barely hooked up-

But with weight on the springs they settled right into position-


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Re: 1970 rr help [Re: 426runner] #179779
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well i got the leafspings in funny thing is. can someone tell me which side is suppose to be the 7 leaf and which side should have the 6?? the passenger side has the 6 in it now. is this wrong?

Re: 1970 rr help [Re: hemipowered2] #179780
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Shouldn't you have checked that before you argued with them for a week? The pass side gets the extra leaf.
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Re: 1970 rr help [Re: hemipowered2] #179781
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Extra leaf goes on the "traction" (passenger) side. Good Luck! Dave


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Re: 1970 rr help [Re: DodgeMaterial] #179782
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What did you have to do to get them to bolt up??

Re: 1970 rr help [Re: hemipowered2] #179783
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well i got the leafspings in funny thing is. can someone tell me which side is suppose to be the 7 leaf and which side should have the 6?? the passenger side has the 6 in it now. is this wrong?




Oops...I guess putting them in for the second time should be easier right....
Passenger side always gets the extra leaf...


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Re: 1970 rr help [Re: hemipowered2] #179784
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well i got the leafspings in funny thing is. can someone tell me which side is suppose to be the 7 leaf and which side should have the 6?? the passenger side has the 6 in it now. is this wrong?




Congratulations! What did you have to do to get the shackles in? Can you post a photo? I'm curious to see how the angle at the rear shackle looks?

Re: 1970 rr help [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #179785
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set the car level give us measurments then go from threr

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this is how they went in, no bushing in the leafspings or the shackles, and the shackles are borrowed from a buddie he has the new ones i was tring to get in before, these are from something but not my car..

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Re: 1970 rr help [Re: hemipowered2] #179787
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Hey hemipowered2, I saw this posted in reference to your situation. This is someone else's suggestion as to the problem. I'm just posting it in the hope that it may help you out.

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on 68-70 bbodys there are differances between dodges and plymouths
when you change out the frame rails they are the same.

what is not the same is the mounting points of the rear springs
when you change that part you need to know which one you are using..

the rear springs are the exact same on both ply and dodge
what is different between dodge and ply
is this and i will use ebarf to show you...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Mopar...sspagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Mopar...sspagenameZWDVW

thats 2 different parts....one for dodge and one for plymouth
obviously when he changed the rails he changed his mounting position
he just needs to use the right parts that will fit so
it will go back together correctly



Re: 1970 rr help [Re: harryhood] #179788
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Re: 1970 rr help [Re: 500Stroker] #179789
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hey hemipower did you get bushings and shackles from buddy wheres are measurments

Re: 1970 rr help [Re: harryhood] #179791
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Hey hemipowered2, I saw this posted in reference to your situation. This is someone else's suggestion as to the problem. I'm just posting it in the hope that it may help you out.

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on 68-70 bbodys there are differances between dodges and plymouths
when you change out the frame rails they are the same.

what is not the same is the mounting points of the rear springs
when you change that part you need to know which one you are using..

the rear springs are the exact same on both ply and dodge
what is different between dodge and ply
is this and i will use ebarf to show you...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Mopar...sspagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Mopar...sspagenameZWDVW

thats 2 different parts....one for dodge and one for plymouth
obviously when he changed the rails he changed his mounting position
he just needs to use the right parts that will fit so
it will go back together correctly







the fly in that ointment is that the DODGE hangers are LONGER than the plymouth hangers so if he had the wrong hangers , dodge on a plymouth it wouldn't be too short .

what i would do is put a piece of wood that will fit between the shackles between the frame and the spring and lower the body till you can get the shackle into the spring and the frame WITH THE BUSHINGS INSTALLED . then get all the weight on the springs so you can get the piece of wood out .

if that doesn't work then I would have to think something wasn't measured properly or the jig was off ???

Re: 1970 rr help [Re: JohnRR] #179792
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hey johnrr thats what i was going to tell him i think that will work

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