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MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! #1785868 03/22/15 08:06 PM 03/22/15 08:06 PM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus S strokerchall OP mopar
strokerchall OP mopar S Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus	Just curious if theres a kit to tighten up my steering on a 70 chall,I use to have a 79 trans am that steered sooo nice and i could really drive that thing!!! Currently i have the stock steering box with manual steering which is a lil crazy with the 512 stroker and had a couple near crashes.Also i want to upgrade the braking. Of course the cheapest was would be best but fire away. thanks once you've stroked it,you'll wish you stroked it sooner

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: strokerchall] #1785869 03/22/15 09:21 PM 03/22/15 09:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 25,050 Texas GoodysGotaCuda 5.7L Hemi, 6spd
GoodysGotaCuda 5.7L Hemi, 6spd Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 25,050 Texas	What's the budget? 1972 Barracuda - 5.7L Hemi, T56 Magnum 6spd - https://www.facebook.com/GoodysGotaHemi 2020 RAM 1500 [img]https://i.imgur.com/v9yezP9.jpg[/img]

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: strokerchall] #1785870 03/22/15 09:25 PM 03/22/15 09:25 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,649 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ... amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot. Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,649 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...	Replace the engine, and slow down and it shouldn't crash. THEN fix the brakes, and it shouldn't crash. THEN put in a performance steering box. If it's almost crashed a couple times already, then don't drive it until it's fixed... brakes, steering, engine, in that order. Or buy a better driver... Tom "Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing." -Henry David Thoreau Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths author unknown

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: amxautox] #1785871 03/22/15 09:33 PM 03/22/15 09:33 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,649 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ... amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot. Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,649 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...	Doc Diff can sell you what you need for brakes, front and rear. Borganson Steering Box, or another one of those, can fix your steering problem. A Richard Petty Driving School, or another one of those places, can help with controlling the car. Tom "Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing." -Henry David Thoreau Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths author unknown

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: amxautox] #1785872 03/22/15 09:50 PM 03/22/15 09:50 PM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus S strokerchall OP mopar
strokerchall OP mopar S Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus	nothing to do with the driver,i've been driving like an @[Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] since i had a license.Had a few fast cars,both times it was a chunk of sh!tty pavement that broke loose and the car went snakey. Prob spend 2-3k on brakes and steering upgrade,what ya have in mind? once you've stroked it,you'll wish you stroked it sooner

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: strokerchall] #1785873 03/22/15 10:03 PM 03/22/15 10:03 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,649 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ... amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot. Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,649 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...	Ya, chunks of asphalt will screw up anybody's straight course. Tom "Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing." -Henry David Thoreau Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths author unknown

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: amxautox] #1785874 03/23/15 12:00 AM 03/23/15 12:00 AM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus S strokerchall OP mopar
strokerchall OP mopar S Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus	the hotchkis TVS kit is $3200+ american once you've stroked it,you'll wish you stroked it sooner

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: strokerchall] #1785875 03/23/15 12:17 AM 03/23/15 12:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,466 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,466 So Cal	Thorough check of every suspension component for wear and breakage. Firm Feel firm power steering box and Saginaw power steering pump. Performance alignment with 1/2 neg camber, 3-5 deg pos caster, 1/16 toe in. Next step up in $$ would be Borgenson power steering box conversion.

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: strokerchall] #1785876 03/23/15 01:48 AM 03/23/15 01:48 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward! Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal	What size wheels and tires are you running in the front? Skinny, tall tires may make it difficult to control that big block.

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: MuuMuu101] #1785877 03/23/15 02:59 AM 03/23/15 02:59 AM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus S strokerchall OP mopar
strokerchall OP mopar S Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus	bfg's 265 rear,245 front once you've stroked it,you'll wish you stroked it sooner

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: strokerchall] #1785878 03/23/15 10:25 AM 03/23/15 10:25 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 723 Houston Tx Uhcoog1 super stock
Uhcoog1 super stock Joined: May 2005 Posts: 723 Houston Tx	Quote: bfg's 265 rear,245 front Stickier tires front and rear. Borgeson box from Bergman autocraft to speed up the steering. brake pad upgrade. Front sway bar from Hellwig. More aggressive alignment (Steve's specs above will work). That should suffice if you're not doing much more than street driving. -'02 Dodge Viper Ex-World Challenge racecar -'73 Duster, 6.1 based 392 hilborn hemi, tko600, full floater rear 9", Hellwig custom bars, viper brakes, built for road course

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: Uhcoog1] #1785879 03/23/15 03:13 PM 03/23/15 03:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,456 Fly Over States P PHJ426 master
PHJ426 master P Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,456 Fly Over States	Don't need to wind up like this Chally ....know when to lift. Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=391089975994&alt=web

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: PHJ426] #1785880 03/23/15 10:48 PM 03/23/15 10:48 PM
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strokerchall OP mopar S Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus	the azz end kicks out to the right also,it doesn't launch perfectly str8.As you can imagine with a 512, 2800 stahl and 4:10 gears all hell breaks loose when the go pedal meets the carpet once you've stroked it,you'll wish you stroked it sooner

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: PHJ426] #1785881 03/23/15 11:40 PM 03/23/15 11:40 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada dangina pro stock
dangina pro stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada	Quote: Don't need to wind up like this Chally ....know when to lift. Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=391089975994&alt=web 5g's just for the front end with no engine, dash, spindles ect? the guy is on glue

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: dangina] #1785882 03/25/15 12:45 AM 03/25/15 12:45 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	Are you looking to retain a manual steering setup? Everyone has made mention of power steering upgrades but what is the OP doesn't want that, or can fit it. Flaming River used to offer a 16 to 1 chuck. It is cast iron so it looks nothing like the stock one.

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: Kern Dog] #1785883 03/25/15 05:21 PM 03/25/15 05:21 PM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus S strokerchall OP mopar
strokerchall OP mopar S Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus	Quote: Are you looking to retain a manual steering setup? Everyone has made mention of power steering upgrades but what is the OP doesn't want that, or can fit it. Flaming River used to offer a 16 to 1 chuck. It is cast iron so it looks nothing like the stock one. would like to hard power steering/fast ratio and tighten up the steering,it's just a little crazy to recover when the car wants to dance. once you've stroked it,you'll wish you stroked it sooner

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: strokerchall] #1785884 03/25/15 09:06 PM 03/25/15 09:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 813 Ontario,Canada brads70 super stock
brads70 super stock Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 813 Ontario,Canada	Quote: the azz end kicks out to the right also,it doesn't launch perfectly str8.As you can imagine with a 512, 2800 stahl and 4:10 gears all hell breaks loose when the go pedal meets the carpet I have one of DrDiff's dana 60's with a tru trac set up. Sounds like this would help your situation. I'm amazed how well it works and goes straight even when the tires are up in smoke. I wonder if something is worn out in your rear end? Last edited by brads70; 03/26/15 12:31 AM.

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: brads70] #1785885 03/25/15 11:59 PM 03/25/15 11:59 PM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus S strokerchall OP mopar
strokerchall OP mopar S Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 441 Uranus	Quote: Quote: the azz end kicks out to the right also,it doesn't launch perfectly str8.As you can imagine with a 512, 2800 stahl and 4:10 gears all hell breaks loose when the go pedal meets the carpet I have one of DrDiff's dana 60's with a tru trac set up. Sounds like this would help your situation. I'm amazed how well it works and goes straight even when the tires are up in smoke. I wonder if something is work out in your rear end? i am considering a tru trac actually,this chunk was rebuilt 742 case 4:10 once you've stroked it,you'll wish you stroked it sooner

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: strokerchall] #1785886 03/26/15 11:58 AM 03/26/15 11:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,388 Pikes Peak Country T TC@HP2 master
TC@HP2 master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,388 Pikes Peak Country	...or you have a thrust alignment issue. I'd make sure the rear is square and parallel. A step up to power steering would be a big help too. You just can't move a manual steering box wheel with those wide front tires fast enough when it starts getting away from you.

Re: MAKE IT STEER LIKE IT'S ON RAILS!!! [Re: TC@HP2] #1785887 03/29/15 10:54 PM 03/29/15 10:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,072 Cambridge, Ontario, Canada C CUDAJAS top fuel
CUDAJAS top fuel C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,072 Cambridge, Ontario, Canada	Quote: ...or you have a thrust alignment issue. I'd make sure the rear is square and parallel. A step up to power steering would be a big help too. You just can't move a manual steering box wheel with those wide front tires fast enough when it starts getting away from you. Man isn't that the truth!! I went to power from manual on my Cuda last year and it is the single best improvement I have made. manual box is 5 1/2 turns lock to lock, and power is 3 1/2 turns. That is a huge difference. Other then that I would ensure that none of the suspension components are worn out and go from there. Jason

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