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Diesel programmer.... #1785044 03/21/15 06:56 PM 03/21/15 06:56 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Who's using one, and what kind of mileage gains did you get with yours? Just got my Smarty Jr and tried it out on my '03 2500 common rail auto...Got it on the highest setting for now at 100hp...Very awesome...Stainless exhaust shows up next week. Obviously I would not tow in that mode, but curious what you guys get with them turned up....I had an average of 17.9mpg because I do a lot of around town driving...We will see if I can keep my foot out of it. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: Dragula] #1785045 03/21/15 11:20 PM 03/21/15 11:20 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	My 06 megacab has smarty. Previous owner put on a 5" exhaust from the turbo back. It's also got a small lift/level kit and 35" mud tires on 20" wheels--a combo that has to weigh 75lbs!! I'm getting around 15-16 mpgs with the Jr. set to level 2 with defaults. Avoiding level 3 until I have trans work done. Just want to be safe Photobucket sucks

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: 70Cuda383] #1785046 03/21/15 11:21 PM 03/21/15 11:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	Oh yea, ignore the overhead lie-meter. Mine reads 17-18 instead of the 15-16 I really get Photobucket sucks

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: 70Cuda383] #1785047 03/22/15 02:27 AM 03/22/15 02:27 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	So a couple of questions....Mine does not smoke at all..Just a puff at the hit, is there supposed to be more smoke, or am I good? All the vids show guys rolling tons of coal. I left all the settings at each level just as they came, I did not mess with them, just kinda drove a couple of miles on each setting....Heck I am not even sure what an '03 is stock for hp and torque...My 4" stainless turbo exhaust should be here next week, so that will help over the stock pipe I am sure.. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: Dragula] #1785048 03/22/15 03:21 AM 03/22/15 03:21 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,140 Las Vegas, NV Tom_440 master
Tom_440 master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,140 Las Vegas, NV	I have an edge. I have not turned it up as I have an automatic. I bought it for the gauges and speedo re-calibration and have been running it on economy mode. MPG is worse than before as I put 33" tires at the same time. Looks like I'm averaging about 17mpg (hand calculated) in town. Freeway is all over the map. Driving to CA I got almost 23mpg (empty). Stuck in CA freeway traffic dropped to 17mpg. Your hp and torque depend on whether or not you have the HO motor: http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/3rd-gen-powertrain/366421-how-id-ho-engine.html

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: Tom_440] #1785049 03/22/15 08:58 AM 03/22/15 08:58 AM
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 632 Casco, MI Savoy1964 mopar
Savoy1964 mopar Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 632 Casco, MI	I don't think you will see a lot of smoke out of an 03 the turbo does not spool-up like the 04 and up. Max boost is like 18-20. Mine with the tuner turned up will puff at the hit but not a lot while running at speed. 2003 Dodge 3500 Diesel 1964 Plymouth Savoy White 2dr sdn. 512 stroked, Dominator, New Best 9.75 @ 138.50mph 2019 Challenger Scat Pack 1320 White Knuckle-K&N Cold air filter, Billit Oil catch can, drag radials stock 11.911 @ 114mph

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: Savoy1964] #1785050 03/22/15 01:17 PM 03/22/15 01:17 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	"Stoich trucks don't smoke" Guys blowing massive smoke are not tuned properly. A good tune should only net you a slight haze at WOT. Mine also puffs smoke until the turbo spools, then the only noticeable smoke is from any soot build up from easy driving. I like it that way. Don't want to smoke out people behind me just because I want to pass someone. Photobucket sucks

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: 70Cuda383] #1785051 03/22/15 01:51 PM 03/22/15 01:51 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: "Stoich trucks don't smoke" Guys blowing massive smoke are not tuned properly. A good tune should only net you a slight haze at WOT. Mine also puffs smoke until the turbo spools, then the only noticeable smoke is from any soot build up from easy driving. I like it that way. Don't want to smoke out people behind me just because I want to pass someone. So is there enough fuel, cause I do not want to go the other extreme, and is that adjustment in the Smarty Jr? '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: Dragula] #1785052 03/22/15 05:16 PM 03/22/15 05:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,837 Central Missouri Fort Leonard... mopar65 master
mopar65 master Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,837 Central Missouri Fort Leonard...	Quote: Quote: "Stoich trucks don't smoke" Guys blowing massive smoke are not tuned properly. A good tune should only net you a slight haze at WOT. Mine also puffs smoke until the turbo spools, then the only noticeable smoke is from any soot build up from easy driving. I like it that way. Don't want to smoke out people behind me just because I want to pass someone. So is there enough fuel, cause I do not want to go the other extreme, and is that adjustment in the Smarty Jr? if your 03 is the HO model and a stick it will be 305HP and 555 TQ. i had a 04 with a stick and could get around 23-24 on the highway. but at the time i was not using the smarty.the things you can change with the smarty JR are timing and torque management.on yours mads left the rail settings stock.also 03-early 04 had the same turbo. 04.5 is when they went to 325HP and 600 TQ. what helped out my 04 was a boost elbow, its raises your stock boost from lets say 20 psi to around 32/35 psi. it made a big difference in how my 04 ran. what i am saying is you have the fuel now you need the air to make more power.the one i bought was preset at 34 psi but here is just like the one i am talking about. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Cummins-Tu...;hash=item4625c but if you have not already done i would recommend you get a boost gauge and a EGT gauge. also you can change your timing setting for better mpg. I don't know why but every cummins truck i have had gets better fuel mileage on the higher HP settings. I have a 2011 ram that has a H&S MCC custom tune that's so posed to be a round a 450HP tune at the rear wheels and my last tank check i got 17.8 mpg. Which i dot think is to bad for winter fuel and a truck that weighs 8400 pounds with me in it. also this truck when i first g0ot it i was lucky if i got 14 in the winter last year. 3520 pound race ready 1973 Street/Strip Dodge Dart - Stock stroke 440/727 10.49 @ 125.0 on 93 pump gas & ET Street Radials. More to come... ( SGT Miller) Proudly served 12 years in the US ARMY RESERVES support our troops

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: mopar65] #1785053 03/22/15 05:31 PM 03/22/15 05:31 PM
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 632 Casco, MI Savoy1964 mopar
Savoy1964 mopar Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 632 Casco, MI	You will never get above 20 with an 03 auto now a stick version I don't know. Correct I should of said 04.5 has the better turbo. 2003 Dodge 3500 Diesel 1964 Plymouth Savoy White 2dr sdn. 512 stroked, Dominator, New Best 9.75 @ 138.50mph 2019 Challenger Scat Pack 1320 White Knuckle-K&N Cold air filter, Billit Oil catch can, drag radials stock 11.911 @ 114mph

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: Savoy1964] #1785054 03/22/15 08:28 PM 03/22/15 08:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	Diesels like to run with excess air. "Rolling smoke" generally means 1) not enough air for the fuel 2) high exhaust gas temp 3) extra soot in the oil 4) shorter engine life. Advancing timing will increase cylinder pressure and probably economy... but is loading up the heads, pistons rods, bearings and crank more. They may not like that for very long...

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: ahy] #1785055 03/22/15 09:28 PM 03/22/15 09:28 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	My last couple were 6-speed HO trucks...This '03 is not...Its just an Auto, and I was lucky to find it in the time I had. Mode 2 says its tow mode, so we will see, as I will go down to that next time I hitch up, '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: Dragula] #1785056 03/22/15 11:04 PM 03/22/15 11:04 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida rickstershemi master
rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	Quote: Who's using one, and what kind of mileage gains did you get with yours? Just got my Smarty Jr and tried it out on my '03 2500 common rail auto...Got it on the highest setting for now at 100hp...Very awesome...Stainless exhaust shows up next week. Obviously I would not tow in that mode, but curious what you guys get with them turned up....I had an average of 17.9mpg because I do a lot of around town driving...We will see if I can keep my foot out of it. You will experience better fuel mileage in the higher performance setting than you will in "economy mode or tow mode" you just have to keep your foot out of it...which is hard to do. Rickster

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: rickstershemi] #1785057 03/22/15 11:43 PM 03/22/15 11:43 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,388 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: Quote: Who's using one, and what kind of mileage gains did you get with yours? Just got my Smarty Jr and tried it out on my '03 2500 common rail auto...Got it on the highest setting for now at 100hp...Very awesome...Stainless exhaust shows up next week. Obviously I would not tow in that mode, but curious what you guys get with them turned up....I had an average of 17.9mpg because I do a lot of around town driving...We will see if I can keep my foot out of it. You will experience better fuel mileage in the higher performance setting than you will in "economy mode or tow mode" you just have to keep your foot out of it...which is hard to do. Rickster I can tell cruising along it needs less throttle....Actually a lot less. It accelerates with a vengeance...Pretty surprised really. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Diesel programmer.... [Re: Dragula] #1785058 03/23/15 01:15 PM 03/23/15 01:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	I can't speak for that exact tuner, but in my 01 like many others, I get the best mpg in level 5, the highest level. 68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert 340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram

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