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And all I can do i hope that they care enough about it not coming back to do it right. I realize in their mind they're trying to get it out with loosing as little money as possible and yes, they will try to cut corners.

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My advice? Pull it.

Usually when something like this happens there is never a happy ending. Bite the bullet and yank it out and investigate.

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Keep the info you've learned to yourself when talking to the machine shop. Let them figure out what went wrong. In all honesty they may work with you and they may not. Trying to sue and threaten a civil case will just muddy the waters and you will spend more than $1400.00 anyway. Then there's the hassle and the BS. of he said...he said in court. If your time is worth anything pick-up another motor and put it in while you try and workout what's wrong with this one.

In todays society you might as well roll over and play dead...40 years ago he would have taken an a$$ whippin for what's been done. Gee isn't society so much better...

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Just me, what I would do is let them do it over. The threat of legal action likely will force them to do it right but I would not go that route up front. I would assume they have the knowledge to go it correctly but they put a newbie on it for some reason & pretty much fubared the rebuild or something (its hard to second guess peoples' motives). You do not have the money or time or desire to take it somwhere else. I would give them the chance to rectify it & very likely you will get a meticulous job this time (their a$$ is on the line). From what I have observed locally small claims court/lawyers/lawsuits take forever & cost more in time/anquish & still hard to get your money (small claims court) & is a good plan only in some cases. I've heard that alot of dealerships even have a percentage number for the number of comebacks they anticipate having to correct in a fiscal year & how much that will cost them. Most customers dont stand up for themselves & if you are one of the ones that do they will (very) likely take care of you. Firm/no shouting constant regular pressure is the key. cool/calm/regular contact/firm/non threatening insistance. You're an actor and you have a part to play. Good luck with it & post how it turns out. On a side note what I have seen that works in severe cases is an ad in the paper badmouthing their service/parking a lemon car in front of their dealership/demonstrating with a sign in front of their business on the sidewalk (demonstration? permit may be required) . Good luck bro

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For sure. I haven't said a word about small claims to them and I wouldn't until I was sure I would have to go that route. I've won in small claims before and I realize it can be difficult to get the money you have been awarded. I won against a person I was renting a room from for my deposit. I won, but I never got the money. But that is my own fault. I just never went back to the courhouse to file the needed paperwork to get the person's wages garnished.

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For sure. I haven't said a word about small claims to them and I wouldn't until I was sure I would have to go that route. I've won in small claims before and I realize it can be difficult to get the money you have been awarded. I won against a person I was renting a room from for my deposit. I won, but I never got the money. But that is my own fault. I just never went back to the courhouse to file the needed paperwork to get the person's wages garnished.

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Hmm, funny how states do things different. When my daughter went into the Army she sold off a bunch of stuff. Part of it was to a coworker, her manager, who ended up welching on paying. Wife had the power of attorney, took her to court, won, filed the paper for the sheriff to come collect. Sheriff simply collected enough items to auction off for enough to pay the debt.

All she had to do was pay what she owed us, but ended up paying that, court fees, sheriff;'s fees and lost big time.

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With the amount of debris I see in the filter - the engine is hurt, and not going to "fix" itself and needs to come out for repair.

The damage could have started at the intermediate shaft bushing, from debris in the oiling system, a nicked crank, etc. and carried through the system. And realistically, if the old motor failed from spun bearings, there could have been that much debris left in the oiling passages if they didn't properly hot tank and prep the block. Might be hard to pinpoint the root cause at this point.

I understand being on a budget, and this isn't intended to be insulting, but I keep reading about the engine being "rebuilt" for $1400 - I'm curious about what "rebuilt" means at that shop.

Reason I say that is in this area - Southern Mi - you wouldn't get an engine torn down, rebuilt, and assembled (even wrong LOL) for anywhere near $1400. For $1400 you wouldn't get any real MACHINE work done - you might get a basic hot tank, ball hone, and the rings, bearings, timing chain, oil pump and gaskets replaced job, along with the valves and seats ground, etc. But that is far from being "rebuilt". It surely WOULDN'T INCLUDE - boring cylinders, new pistons, align honing, reconditioning rods, grinding crank, deck/head milling, valve guide work, thread cleaning/repair, crack detection, etc. - the things that are usually expected to be done if an engine is getting a quality rebuild.

I hope you can get the "vendor" to step up and make their work right, because you should be able to get a sealed up and functioning engine back for $1400, assuming no hard parts were broken in the core engine, and no real "machine" work was needed.

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...... their ass is on the line to do it right this time.

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