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70 B body woodgrain dash parts #177529
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Is there any way to have these restored? What options are there? Has the repro parts killed the value of original (scrungy) items?


Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: Quikshft] #177530
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I think before the repops came out, places like auto instruments were re-silk screening them. not 100% sure though. the new ones sure look good though


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Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: Quikshft] #177531
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I looked at sets on E-bay for years before PG repoped them and I bought several, but none were good enough to use IMO. I was never a fan of the stickers.

Honestly, I'd just get the new ones from B/E&A.


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Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: DPelletier] #177532
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Sorry to highjack but I was wondering if the woodgrain pieces include the plastic gauge bezels and come ready to install on the instrument cluster? For the price I'd think they do but in most of the pics it just looks like the tin woodgrain overlays. Thanks

Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: Silverbullet2] #177533
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I have always assumed the repro's are just the alum overlays, you still need the balance of parts for a complete set-up.

Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: Quikshft] #177534
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What I've seen at the swap meets are NEW woodgrain overlays on top the correct tin backing, ready to drop in. The woodgrain kit being around $600, and a new bezel kit separately for another $600. So, thats $1200 for a new complete dash kit.

I need 2, one for my 70-B and one for 69 SE Charger. The B might just get a plain bezel kit and loose the woodgrain.

Its all pretty pricey, but the quality looks to be real good.

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After looking at BEA's parts, the woodgrain is just that, the woodgrain. You'll have to peal off your old and glue the new on.

I must have seen the "display only" versions.

Still almost $1100 total.

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Ouch...

Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: Silverbullet2] #177537
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Ouch...




Exactly! My pieces are nice, just ugly. Might have to learn the art of air-brushing woodgrain.

Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: cdp] #177538
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What I've seen at the swap meets are NEW woodgrain overlays on top the correct tin backing, ready to drop in. The woodgrain kit being around $600, and a new bezel kit separately for another $600. So, thats $1200 for a new complete dash kit.

I need 2, one for my 70-B and one for 69 SE Charger. The B might just get a plain bezel kit and loose the woodgrain.

Its all pretty pricey, but the quality looks to be real good.




Yep, I had ordered the woodgrain pces (aluminum) and just recieved the plastic bezels that go underneath from B/E&A yesterday. It all looks very nice, but yeah; about $1200 bucks. I looked into re-chroming and re-finishing my original plastic bezels, but the cost was similar and it was several months turn-around. The repops from B/E&A and PG look really nice. I haven't had a chance to see how well they fit yet.

That's OK, I figure $200 for a used E-bay rallye cluster ('cause mine was garbage) plus $450.00 for Autoinstruments to redo the gauges, plus $425 for a new tach from R/T specialties, oh and the new knobs for the switches from B/E&A for $105 means I'm into my dash for a whopping $2,380.00!

Honestly, if correctness wasn't an issue I'd probably just use the plastic bezels alone; they look nice and have all the lettering, etc. My only issue now is I have to cut out all the slots on the new plastic bezels in order to install the aluminum woodgrain pces.



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Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: cdp] #177539
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After looking at BEA's parts, the woodgrain is just that, the woodgrain. You'll have to peal off your old and glue the new on.

I must have seen the "display only" versions.

Still almost $1100 total.




As I said: no pealing or glueing with the BEA stuff. They are a finished aluminum panel (like the originals) and are held on by tabs that are bent over after they pass through the plastic bezels. The only "peal and sticks" I've seen are the decals.

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Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: DPelletier] #177540
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After looking at BEA's parts, the woodgrain is just that, the woodgrain. You'll have to peal off your old and glue the new on.

I must have seen the "display only" versions.

Still almost $1100 total.




As I said: no pealing or glueing with the BEA stuff. They are a finished aluminum panel (like the originals) and are held on by tabs that are bent over after they pass through the plastic bezels. The only "peal and sticks" I've seen are the decals.

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Are decals still available? I have a pile of 'other' money to spend on my car to get it on the road, decals might be a reasonable short time fix.

Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: Quikshft] #177541
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Yeah, YO lists them and they're on E-bay all the time.


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Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: DPelletier] #177542
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I have a source that will re-paint the wood grain. It loses some of the etches but if you are not looking to spend the high dollar it is an option.

Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: Quikshft] #177543
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Exactly! My pieces are nice, just ugly. Might have to learn the art of air-brushing woodgrain.


mine is not too bad but might have to learn to air brush also just don't want to screw up an original part. Can I buy just the part I have circled, any one know?

Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: 70 buzz] #177544
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70 Buzz - The plastic injection molded bezels are available on Ebay or through AB&E. I have not seen the metal backing plate that the woodgrain aluminum piece attaches to. However you may check with AB&E to see if they make it.


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The shiny trim around the piece is not shiny anymore. I think it is anodized alum. can this be reanodized to bring the trim part backif that is what it is?

Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: 70 buzz] #177546
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The shiny trim around the piece is not shiny anymore. I think it is anodized alum. can this be reanodized to bring the trim part backif that is what it is?




are you refering to the top edge and around the numberd 'face'? if so, that is chromed plastic, and the only way to get it to look like new again is to send it out to get rechromed but its probably cheaper to buy new ones. BE&A will sell the individual radio bezels. they look nice, but the chromed top edge is a little more squared compared to the originals which is a little more rounded- but its not really a big deal or noticable at all. hope this helps


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The shiny trim around the piece is not shiny anymore. I think it is anodized alum. can this be reanodized to bring the trim part backif that is what it is?




are you refering to the top edge and around the numberd 'face'? if so, that is chromed plastic, and the only way to get it to look like new again is to send it out to get rechromed but its probably cheaper to buy new ones. BE&A will sell the individual radio bezels. they look nice, but the chromed top edge is a little more squared compared to the originals which is a little more rounded- but its not really a big deal or noticable at all. hope this helps


You mean I can take my wood grain and attach it to the backing B&E has?

Re: 70 B body woodgrain dash parts [Re: 70 buzz] #177548
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B&E has the complete set ready to screw fast. I looked at them at Carlisle and was grumbling to myself for not waiting a little longer to have mine done. I have the decals on mine and am not impressed with them. I could have new ones that would be basically perfect.

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