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Re: A500 A 518 A618 #17743
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The car has benn mini tubbed, through the floor subframe connectors, the 4 bar suspension as mentioned above, and more to come, so the fab work is no big deal.....

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Pic of the crossmember I made and the 4 bar....

Re: A500 A 518 A618 #17745
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scott dickinson is running a 4L80E in his 1300 hp supercharged 383 challenger.

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scott dickinson is running a 4L80E in his 1300 hp supercharged 383 challenger.

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Is Scott a member on the board? Any way of getting in contact with him? Thanks for the info...

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scott dickinson is running a 4L80E in his 1300 hp supercharged 383 challenger.

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Is Scott a member on the board? Any way of getting in contact with him? Thanks for the info...




he owns SD concept engineering. he dropped by my turbo mopar board on turbomustangs.com a few times too.

here is his site...

http://www.sd-concepts.com/

Re: A500 A 518 A618 #17748
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if thats what you want for a front suspension.. have you looked at alterktion?

at www.bigblockdart.com

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if thats what you want for a front suspension.. have you looked at alterktion?

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I have not looked into the front suspension just yet. I am trying to finish up the back half, then the tranny and motor, get the car running, and THEN worry about the front suspension. I will do my reserch at that point, and ask you guys for some help. I do not want to get ahead of myself just yet . I have the Dana 60 finished up, the rear suspension done, now working on the tranny and motor. Once we finish up there, I can go drive the car (I already have all new front end stuff tie rods, torsion bars, strut rods, shocks, boxed control arms, etc...) Once I can enjoy the car, THEN I will upgrade to the stuff mentioned above.

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just dont forget that name... alterktion....

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That's a big 10-4.....

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FYI - the "Electronic" torqueflites (46RE, 47RE, 48RE) have a round, black 8-pin connector on driver's side behind the levers. That's 8 (eight) pins, not five.

Also, the 47RE and 48RE have parts that are not interchangeable with the gas cases, for capacity - the low/reverse band is larger and wider, as is the low-reverse drum. There are other parts that do increase the capacity in the late-model units.

The surface area of the single-plate lockup clutch in a stock 11" Mopar converter is totally inadequate for your torque levels. Consult with aftermarket performance torque converter companies and get the scoop before going that route. I use PTC PTC web page they know their stuff.

I'd contact the owner of the turbo Challenger and see how the 4L80-E is performing for him, and how much it was both engineering and otherwise.

The AOD is not electronic at all, but the 4R70W is all electronic.

As far as the AOD and the 46RH/A518 go, both need a TV cable or linkage from the carburetor or accelerator linkage to the transmission to function properly. Depending on the induction you plan to use, that could become a hassle. However, there are cable setups that work for each.

The fab work looks great! One of my projects is at that stage now. Looks like your ride will be awesome!

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Re: A500 A 518 A618 #17753
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If you are looking at an AOD, go to Lentech in Richmond Ont. http://www.lentechautomatics.com/aodhome.html Because it has a separate bell it is easy to adapt and they offer an SFI BB Mopar bell for it.
They offer it from street to full tilt race.

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Once again, thanks guys for ALL the info. I will defintiely weigh all of my options...I have emailed SMR (have not heard back from them yet) I do not know how to get a hold of the guy with turbo 4L80, if anyone does, PLEASE let me know, I also sent an email to the transmissioncenter.net guys, and am sending one to Lentech. Once I gather all of the info I need, I can then base my decision on that. I would like to stay with the 518, but it all comes down to customer service, product, and then $$$$$$$. I will weigh them all and see what best fits me. The fab work is least on my mind. I want the best tranny with the best customer service, and if that means I have to pay a little extra $$$$$ and do some extra fab work, then so be it. Keep the info/suggestions coming....




ANYONE KNOW THE GUY WITH THE TURBO 4L80 CHALLENGER???????????

Re: A500 A 518 A618 #17755
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I believe TCI is the one who sells the control modual for the 4l80e. I know they sell the trans for sure.

Re: A500 A 518 A618 #17756
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ANYONE KNOW THE GUY WITH THE TURBO 4L80 CHALLENGER???????????




ive talked to him on the net but the best thing to do would be call up SDCE and ask for the owner, scott and ask away since it is his car.

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ANYONE KNOW THE GUY WITH THE TURBO 4L80 CHALLENGER???????????




ive talked to him on the net but the best thing to do would be call up SDCE and ask for the owner, scott and ask away since it is his car.




SDCE? Anyone have a number for them, or a link?

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Is it the Sd concepts link from above?

Re: A500 A 518 A618 [Re: AlexP] #17759
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scott dickinson is running a 4L80E in his 1300 hp supercharged 383 challenger.

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Is Scott a member on the board? Any way of getting in contact with him? Thanks for the info...




he owns SD concept engineering. he dropped by my turbo mopar board on turbomustangs.com a few times too.

here is his site...

http://www.sd-concepts.com/



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OK, thanks....got it. Looks like they offer some pretty cool products. I sent them an email as well. Once again, can not thank you guys enough or the info.


Here is a shot of my car after the chemical bath and on the rotisserie I made.

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Just felt like listing things about my car:

1)71 Challenger
2)Dana 60 shortened with 35 spline Strange axles and diff, 3.73 gear set.
3)Custom made 4 bar rear suspension with polyurethane bushing rod ends for adjustment
4)Coil over Koni shocks
5)Ford Explorer rear disc brakes, 11.25 rotor
6)20 gallon aluminum fuel cell with sending unit
7)Siamese rough bore, 4.19 Hemi block
8)Aluminum Hemi heads
9)Chemically dipped
10)Dp50 Epoxy primed EVERYTHING, seam sealed, rubberized undercoating, THEN will paint K6, Dark Bronze Poly.
11)X Trim Vortech Blower
12)Through the floor subframe connectors I made
13)New floors, trunk extensions, lower quarters, and inner fenders.......

....and the to do list.....
14)A518, AOD, or 4L80
15)4.15, 4.25, or 4.50 crank
16)dual carb intake (inline or cross, not sure)
17)you know what, that is enough for right now, more later....


And the attachment is of my Powerstroke, 2 car hauler, and my better half, my wife that actually puts up with my insanity. She came with me on the road trip to pick up the car, we drove from Houston to Pennsylania and back to Houston from Friday to Sunday, and she STILL had a smile on her face!!!

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if thats what you want for a front suspension.. have you looked at alterktion?

at www.bigblockdart.com




I have not looked into the front suspension just yet. I am trying to finish up the back half, then the tranny and motor, get the car running, and THEN worry about the front suspension. I will do my reserch at that point, and ask you guys for some help. I do not want to get ahead of myself just yet . I have the Dana 60 finished up, the rear suspension done, now working on the tranny and motor. Once we finish up there, I can go drive the car (I already have all new front end stuff tie rods, torsion bars, strut rods, shocks, boxed control arms, etc...) Once I can enjoy the car, THEN I will upgrade to the stuff mentioned above.




front suspension might be smart to do first-- if you go the coil over route (like the alterKtion route) that frees up a lot of space for tranny xmember and exhaust when you don't have to worry about t-bars.

one more thing to reiterate, if you're putting large amounts of power through the lockup clutch, you're just dumb....set the tranny up to unlock the clutch at a certain vaccuum level, throttle position, or manually shut it off when you're playing....APS's converters, IIRC have HD kevlar lockup clutches in them, as well...

a 4L80E is a tough trans, and it's going to be expensive...most places to get one "built" for HP use is going to be ~$3-4k with a converter, then you have to buy a controller to actually run it, and most run ~$500 on up...they made some changes in '98/99 that improve the cooling, so look for a trans of this vintage or newer

if you're getting into stupid power levels (1000+HP) I'd say screw it and get a lenco, liberty, or jericho box...

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