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Hiqhway gear choice 2:94 or 3:23 #177025
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I've got a 69 coronet I initially built as a weekend warrior, but life changes (family) has made it a work commute and cruiser vehicle. I have a moderate built 360 with 727 trans and 8.75 third member with 3:55 sure grip. Cruising at freeway speeds is now annoying and expensive. What RPM would 2:94 or 3:23 gears me at 70mph?

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3.23 won't make much difference. You'll be happier with the 2.94

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Multiply your current 70mph rpm by 3.23 and divide by 3.55 - that will give you the 70 mph rpm with a 3.23. Do the same with the 2.94

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What if you can fit a tire that is say 2" taller in the rear?


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This might help you pick a gear. http://vexer.com/68rt/speed.html

Re: Hiqhway gear choice 2:94 or 3:23 [Re: stumpy] #177030
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4.56's here...Then again, I have a 29" tire and OD.


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Re: Hiqhway gear choice 2:94 or 3:23 [Re: dmerc] #177031
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You'll be happier with the 2.94




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Re: Hiqhway gear choice 2:94 or 3:23 [Re: BSB67] #177032
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Great advise guys. I'm running 17x9s with 275/40s on the rear. Last time I checked, taller tire options were limited. I can only fit about 1" taller anyway. Using the math formula for the rear gears, I can drop 300rpm using 3:23 or 520rpm using 2:94s. I've got the original a one leg 2:73 741 third member, but I don't want to take all the fun out of it.

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that's why a person needs(at least) 2 vehicles, an economcal one to commute in & another to have fun with especially with a long commute to work plus it feeds the addiction

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3:23 would be 70 mph at 3000 rpm
2:94 would be 77 mph at 3000 rpm

i say 2.94 gears. have them in my car and really like them.

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How about 2.76?

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How about 2.76?





82 mph at 3000 rpm

Re: Hiqhway gear choice 2:94 or 3:23 [Re: Mr_fixit] #177037
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I had the 2.76, lockup 727 and 28" tires on the big Monaco and I got effortless 2000rpm touring at 60mph.


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Re: Hiqhway gear choice 2:94 or 3:23 [Re: cogen80] #177038
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No power with that low a gear.2.94 is the lowest I'd go.

Re: Hiqhway gear choice 2:94 or 3:23 [Re: stumpy] #177039
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nitto makes some 275/50's IIRC that would be 1-2" taller than your current tires.

I had 3.55's with a low gear 904 and 27" tires (255/50R17's) and hated it on the highway. I swapped out to a A500 and love it (effective gear ratio in OD is ~2.45:1)

I'd personally go with the 2.94 or maybe even a 2.76....

or keep the 3.55's and swap in an OD tranny (either a 518 or 500 automatic, or an A833OD manual)


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Re: Hiqhway gear choice 2:94 or 3:23 [Re: patrick] #177040
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2.94 Hands down!

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what is your vacuum
at cruise rpm
on a hill gentle enough
that you don't want a downshift?

if the purpose of the ratio change
is to get better MPG
once you reach approximately
6" of Hg vacuum
any additional MPG from the ratio change
will be very small

Re: Hiqhway gear choice 2:94 or 3:23 [Re: 360view] #177042
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Any choice will be a comprimise unless you go with an overdrive.


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Ditto to what Patrick said. If you've already got, or have easy/cheap access to a low-gearset 904, you could install that with the 2.94's (or even 2.76's) and probably not feel much difference in performance but still benefit from the lower cogs for highway cruising.

Of course if you've got to get a trans anyway, a healthy 500 might be the way to go, although there's no benefit from the smaller trans in the OD department, so clearance might be an issue.

If all that means extra money that you can't put towards gas (or family stuff - I'm there now too), then the 2.94's would be an easy compromise.

Clair

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Thanks for all the replies. Lots of good information. I especially found the visual Speed/RPM calculator helpful at http://vexer.com/68rt/speed.html
With my 25.7" rear tires, 2.94s would give me 2730rpm at 70mph and 2.76s would give me 2563rpm at 70mph, not accounting for T coverter slippage. My dual plane 360 has good hp & torque between 2-5000rmp.
Since I don't have the funds for a OD trans swap, I think I'll go with the 2.76s. Since my stall is 2200-2400rmp, I'll still have some take off power, I just won't be posting 1/4 mile records. Plus, I found a NOS 2.76 R&P on e-bay for $75. Anybody see any problems with this set up?

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Your not going to like the way it works at low RPMs. As I said eariler I wouldn't use anything less than a 2.94. I'm running a 410 stroker with a 2500 stall and it doesn't like the 2.94s I'm running now. You'll not get full converter lock up in town driving. Which means higher temps and less milage.

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I've never thought 3.23's were too steep for interstate cruising, around 3000 at 70 mph.

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2.94. better drivability is worth the cost of 3 tents in the ouater on a street car

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Your not going to like the mway it works at5 low RPMs. As I said eariler I wouldn't use anything less than a 2.94. I'm running a 410 stroker with a 2500 stall and it doesn't like the 2.94s I'm running now. You'll not get full converter lock up in town driving. Which means higher temps and less milage.




I'm running a 410 also, with a looser 10" converter and its awesome, especially with 26.7" tire. Maybe my cam/intake setup is milder, but I have had this combo for years and love it.

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I'm happy with my 2.76 set-up.

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Thanks for all the replies. Lots of good information. I especially found the visual Speed/RPM calculator helpful at http://vexer.com/68rt/speed.html
With my 25.7" rear tires, 2.94s would give me 2730rpm at 70mph and 2.76s would give me 2563rpm at 70mph, not accounting for T coverter slippage. My dual plane 360 has good hp & torque between 2-5000rmp.
Since I don't have the funds for a OD trans swap, I think I'll go with the 2.76s. Since my stall is 2200-2400rmp, I'll still have some take off power, I just won't be posting 1/4 mile records. Plus, I found a NOS 2.76 R&P on e-bay for $75. Anybody see any problems with this set up?




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Good pick on the 2.76 gear, you will like them.
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G machine has one of my favorite cars on the site. He still runs real good 1/4 times and has a good streetable gear. I don't consider 3.23 or lower good street gears, most cars can't hook up that much tq on the street any how. I would say get the 2.94 or 2.76, I am running 2.76 behind my mild 318 and it is a blast, I do have a low geared 904 to help it off the line.


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