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what tig welder for beginner #1759216 02/20/15 05:33 PM 02/20/15 05:33 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 342 dracut mass usa S sparcy OP enthusiast
sparcy OP enthusiast S Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 342 dracut mass usa	looking to buy a tig machine !!! i have a miller 210 mig looking at the tig 180 1800 cash !! anyone have one pros or cons on this machine !! I have a miller mig machine already and like it . thats why i was looking at miller !! anyone have a lincoln tig ?? IF YOU ARE NOT WRECKING STUFF YOU ARE NOT LEARNING !

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: sparcy] #1759217 02/20/15 06:06 PM 02/20/15 06:06 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,164 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,164 PA.	I lucked out on a Lincoln Precision Tig 225 as I bought a slightly used one local. Then I signed up at a vo-tech school to take some night classes and was trained on the very same welder that I just bought. Very nice machine. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: pittsburghracer] #1759218 02/20/15 06:38 PM 02/20/15 06:38 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,751 Graham, WA P Polarapete top fuel
Polarapete top fuel P Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,751 Graham, WA	Excellent score on the Lincoln Tig and the Vo-Tech training. 1986 Dodge Ramcharger 440 2wd, Bracket Racer Under Construction 1998 Ram 2500 QuadCab, new daily driver. 2008 Honda Element 2014 Carry-On 7x14 Cargo Trailer

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: sparcy] #1759219 02/20/15 06:56 PM 02/20/15 06:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	All of my welders are Millers, Lincoln make good machines too. I'd look around at used stuff, there are some deals out there if you're patient.

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: justinp61] #1759220 02/20/15 07:05 PM 02/20/15 07:05 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 791 Bama Randy.. super stock
Randy.. super stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 791 Bama	Harder to learn on the smaller machines, but if you learn on them the bigger ones are a piece of cake.

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: Randy..] #1759221 02/20/15 07:18 PM 02/20/15 07:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Is the HTP tig any good?

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: justinp61] #1759222 02/20/15 07:28 PM 02/20/15 07:28 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: All of my welders are Millers, Lincoln make good machines too. I'd look around at used stuff, there are some deals out there if you're patient. All of my machines are Lincoln but I want to buy a Miller... just buy a brand name and it'll be fine

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: MattW] #1759223 02/20/15 07:58 PM 02/20/15 07:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	Quote: Is the HTP tig any good? I'd stick with a Miller or Lincoln, consumables are more readily available. At least they are here. Jody at weldingtipsandtricks.com has done several reviews on different machines.

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: justinp61] #1759224 02/20/15 08:10 PM 02/20/15 08:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,540 Milwaukee WI T TRENDZ master
TRENDZ master T Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,540 Milwaukee WI	What do you want to do with it? Welding aluminum requires A/C ability. Things I look for in a tig machine: H/F start. A/C D/C- D/C+ Liqiud cooled torch. (gas cooled torches consume way to much gas, and are generally oversized and hard to manage) At least 175 amps. The best "add on" to a tig machine is a liquid cooled SPEEDWAY brand torch. Once you use one, you will never want to use anything else. I prefer foot control amperage pedal. I don't like the torch mounted switches, but it does come in handy when you're climbing like a monkey through roll cages. "use it 'till it breaks, replace as needed"

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: MattW] #1759225 02/20/15 08:59 PM 02/20/15 08:59 PM
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 490 IL E EchoSixMike mopar
EchoSixMike mopar E Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 490 IL	Quote: Is the HTP tig any good? HTP is excellent, the customer service is unbeatable. S/F....Ken M

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: EchoSixMike] #1759226 02/20/15 10:29 PM 02/20/15 10:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 188 Middletown, Ohio J Joes66dart member
Joes66dart member J Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 188 Middletown, Ohio	There are some deals out there on tig welders I bought a miller aircrafter that came from a local air force base that looked brand new for $500

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: Randy..] #1759227 02/20/15 11:16 PM 02/20/15 11:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	Quote: Harder to learn on the smaller machines, but if you learn on them the bigger ones are a piece of cake. This comimg from a guy who uses a 625A Miller. 8435993-Miller625AmpIMG_8905.jpg (120 downloads) Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: sparcy] #1759228 02/21/15 12:04 AM 02/21/15 12:04 AM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 345 Nebraska 4 451Cuda enthusiast
451Cuda enthusiast 4 Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 345 Nebraska	Quote: looking to buy a tig machine !!! i have a miller 210 mig looking at the tig 180 1800 cash !! anyone have one pros or cons on this machine !! I have a miller mig machine already and like it . thats why i was looking at miller !! anyone have a lincoln tig ?? I just bought a Miller 180 Diversion, love it so far.

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: 451Cuda] #1759229 02/21/15 01:57 AM 02/21/15 01:57 AM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,066 Mo. racerx master
racerx master Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,066 Mo.	Quote: Quote: looking to buy a tig machine !!! i have a miller 210 mig looking at the tig 180 1800 cash !! anyone have one pros or cons on this machine !! I have a miller mig machine already and like it . thats why i was looking at miller !! anyone have a lincoln tig ?? I just bought a Miller 180 Diversion, love it so far. x2 I've had mine for bout a few years now and only did a few test passes on some scrap allium.(still learning) all seems good

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: racerx] #1759230 02/21/15 02:11 AM 02/21/15 02:11 AM
Joined: May 2013 Posts: 172 IL,USA bdusted440 member
bdusted440 member Joined: May 2013 Posts: 172 IL,USA	I bought the miller diversion 180 three weeks ago and love it. currently own 1976 duster deluxe 1974 gold duster 1993 Dakota sport 2000 caravan 2002 Durango 1970 v code superbee

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: sparcy] #1759231 02/21/15 03:15 AM 02/21/15 03:15 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	I'd like to get this Miller Dynasty 280, but I will need to save up some $$$$. http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.com/mi...CFYNDaQodh7EA9Q

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: 451Mopar] #1759232 02/21/15 04:53 AM 02/21/15 04:53 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,207 Menomonee Falls DemonDust master
DemonDust master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,207 Menomonee Falls	All consumables are the same either you have an air cooled 17 or water cooled 20. Even the cheap chit Chinese tig welders work pretty well. I don't remember what the model number was, but this was done on an everlast tig welder after drinking..... SDG Motorsports Hellcat Demon and Redeye Supercharger CNC Porting https://www.sdgmotorsports.com/

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: Joes66dart] #1759233 02/21/15 08:59 AM 02/21/15 08:59 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 486 IL knyech1 mopar
knyech1 mopar Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 486 IL	Quote: There are some deals out there on tig welders I bought a miller aircrafter that came from a local air force base that looked brand new for $500 Same thing happened to me. Found a Lincoln Square Wave Pro TIG with 2-300h on it, with cart, tank, boatload of new tips for $400. It sells new for $2000 and the tips are probably another $250-ish. It's a very nice welder. knyech1- '71 Sassy Grass Demon 340/904. Pump gas, 1.61 60ft, 7.439 1/8 @ 95mph, 11.824 1/4 @ 111mph "Not too bad for a pump gas 340, full of used parts and hillbilly ported stock heads." - V.B. '03 2500 5.9L HO 6-spd on 35's. 395hp/755ft-lb at tires.

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: EchoSixMike] #1759234 02/21/15 11:26 AM 02/21/15 11:26 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Quote: Quote: Is the HTP tig any good? HTP is excellent, the customer service is unbeatable. S/F....Ken M We have 2 Lincolns and 1 HTP.The HTP is a pulse welder and works great,best customer service [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: B G Racing] #1759235 02/22/15 04:36 PM 02/22/15 04:36 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 197 Milwaukee, WI M moparjimbo member
moparjimbo member M Joined: May 2006 Posts: 197 Milwaukee, WI	I think I will be trying one of these soon. I do not own one yet, but have heard nothing but good things on a few other forums and will be pulling the trigger soon. $750 and free Amazon shipping seems like you cannot go wrong for the occasional welding I will be doing... http://www.amazon.com/AHP-AlphaTIG-200-A...ywords=alphatig 1996 Viper GTS - UGR Twin Turbo 1500RWHP, 9.02 @ 167 on pump gas and DOT tire 1973 Challenger - 572 Indy Hemi 860HP 1975 Trailduster Convertible, 440 1967 Plymouth Fury Police Pursuit 2DR 505 Stroker 2004 Neon SRT4 modded www.milwaukeemopar.com

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1759236 02/23/15 03:04 PM 02/23/15 03:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,361 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,361 Las Vegas	We have used our Miller Dynasty 165 for just about everything and IMO it is a great machine to start with. We will be looking to upgrade to something with a liquid cooled torch at some point. But for the money this has been an excellent welder. PS you can find them cheaper searching the net. http://www.millerwelds.com/products/tig/product.php?model=M00325 "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: Al_Alguire] #1759237 02/24/15 09:29 PM 02/24/15 09:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Both our Lincoln and HPT are liquid cooled. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: B G Racing] #1759238 02/24/15 09:38 PM 02/24/15 09:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	I've been teaching myself to tig with an Everlast 225LX. I really like it and find it to be easy set up and understand as well as a very capable machine. Jody @ Welding Tips and Tricks gave the Everlast machines a good workout comparing them to other better known tigs and he thought them just as capable. Good enough for me to but one.

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: Al_Alguire] #1759239 02/24/15 10:08 PM 02/24/15 10:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	Quote: We have used our Miller Dynasty 165 for just about everything and IMO it is a great machine to start with. We will be looking to upgrade to something with a liquid cooled torch at some point. But for the money this has been an excellent welder. PS you can find them cheaper searching the net. http://www.millerwelds.com/products/tig/product.php?model=M00325 Miller makes a seperate cooler, Coolmate, I have one on my Syncrowave 250DX.

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: justinp61] #1759240 02/24/15 11:52 PM 02/24/15 11:52 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,868 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,868 Ontario, Canada	Alphatig - same as an Everlast. If I had to chose between the two, I'd go with the Everlast. They at least have some support in North America. The Canadian rep is the guy who goes to China and specs out the units, the changes and runs the tests. So at least there are some North American "boots on the ground". The others are probably just repaints. Everlast has a good website with forums that are worth checking out. FWIW I do not own an Everlast - but I came close!

Re: what tig welder for beginner [Re: Stanton] #1759241 02/25/15 01:16 AM 02/25/15 01:16 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,165 Central Ohio, USA Bigbeep super stock
Bigbeep super stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,165 Central Ohio, USA	I really like my Lincoln 185 precision tig. I also have an older Esab DTU300 tig unit that I bought cheap. Built my own cooler for it and used it on 2 or 3 customer jobs and it quit working. Go figure! still need to get it repaired. Personally I think the newer smaller machines are easier to use. They seem to be easier to set up and also have the auto balance and pulser that really helps in the AC mode. Beep 8440155-IMG_0774.JPG (38 downloads)

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