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Re: Lash Caps or Longer Valves? [Re: B3RE] #1736131
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I know many do it, the shaft shims but imo its bad enough with the best setup you can get to keep them in place. Enough that I have a small roll pin on the ends and the center shaft tower and the shafts drilled for a tight fit and its helped.

You heads and shafts can show the same signs as capwalk if you look but it seems many dont mind it

Re: Lash Caps or Longer Valves? [Re: Porter67] #1736132
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I know many do it, the shaft shims but imo its bad enough with the best setup you can get to keep them in place. Enough that I have a small roll pin on the ends and the center shaft tower and the shafts drilled for a tight fit and its helped.

You heads and shafts can show the same signs as capwalk if you look but it seems many dont mind it




Please don't take this the wrong way Porter, but when you see signs of the rocker shaft bouncing all over the place, why aren't alarm bells and flashing red lights going off in your head? Doesn't that give an inkling of instability in the valvetrain? I know you guys might get tired off hearing me rant about geometry, but this is the stuff that I'm trying correct, and hopefully, keep somebody from doing serious damage to their motor. And, stacking lash caps on top of the valve only makes that instability worse, unless the valve really needs a lash cap. Here's a link that explains what lash caps are for:

http://trendperform.com/press-releases/how-to-achieve-valvetrain-supremacy/


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Re: Lash Caps or Longer Valves? [Re: B3RE] #1736133
01/25/15 03:55 AM
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I used these Max Wedge Stands after breaking the center stand on my first set of heads.
http://www.billetracingparts.com/Max%20Wedge%20Stands.html

Re: Lash Caps or Longer Valves? [Re: B3RE] #1736134
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I couldnt agree more, and I responded to fix the problem and did. I stray from buying used al heads for many reasons, but one of the things I look for is signs of the shaft moving.

Seeing the issue is why I took measures to deal with mine and pinned the shafts as well as use billet blocks as well.

Lash caps give me what I feel better with, a larger contact area and a better scrub pattern. And im not replacing valves or guides often.

I have read alot of your posting and have mixed thoughts, with that said ive never had a rocker arm related failure, SM composite lifters, Smith Brothers pushrods and comp pro mag rockers, comp tit. retainers, high spring rate springs and so forth. As well as I have my solid cams round on a roller core.

Part of the reason I stay with this setup on several builds is because of how well it works and dont wear parts out other then expected wear.

And im hard on parts, I have a good stretch where I run over 7200 for almost 30 seconds, start with a rolling burnout.

But I will say this, there are many who have the shafts walk and not seem to care, they break rockers, bend pushrods and are clueless.

I dont break valve train parts so I stick with what I know and use good well matched parts.

This pic is of some older comp pro mags I use and I was test fitting a .660 which put me a bit too close to coil bind so I went with the .640 lift as really my heads wont miss the .020 difference.

The kicker here is I run a slightly modified oiling system and my comps are not even bushed and im waiting for them to wear so I can get them bushed, but they dont wear.

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Them are nice and a good price as well, I use something like them on my W2 norris rockers.

I got a good one for the rocker arm geometry expert, the dam set of small block b1-s are giving me fits.

But on these, at times simple is better.

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Them are nice and a good price as well, I use something like them on my W2 norris rockers.

I got a good one for the rocker arm geometry expert, the dam set of small block b1-s are giving me fits.

But on these, at times simple is better.




I'm up to it if you are.


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