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Re: 440 Source Block
[Re: DoctorDiff]
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12/24/08 05:04 PM
12/24/08 05:04 PM
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Rittman Ohio
fourgearsavoy
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Rittman Ohio
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I was just at Summit yesterday and they had an "American Racing" torque-thrust"D"rim on the shelf with the "Made in China" sticker still on it  My buddy who owns and runs a high performance shop gets tired of peeling the "made in China" stickers off of Mopar Performance parts from Chrysler of America. Gus 
64 Plymouth Savoy
493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow
5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box
Dana 60
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Re: 440 Source Block
[Re: Stanton]
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12/24/08 05:44 PM
12/24/08 05:44 PM
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Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
OzHemi
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Garden Grove, CA
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My Foose Nitrous II's, I was told right from Foose
Wheels, they are made in the USA, but on the back
side it says MADE IN CHINA
The final product quite likely was CNC'd in USA but the casting or forging was probably done in China. Also, many wheels are produced in two pieces to yeild the desired offset so its possible the rim was done in China but the insert done in the USA.
Have you noticed all the "plain brown boxes" that new wheels are in at swapmeets, shows, etc.. All Chinese product. When they're repackaged into the Cragar box the price doubles !!
Cragar SS's are Made in the USA by Carlise wheel...right here in SoCal.
Foose wheels are just made for him by MHT from memory  (or what ever company makes them...) and done in china as metioned.
Most of the 1 piece wheels out there are china... I do know Oasis makes wheels under thier name and for a few other companies (1 piece)right here in Orange County.. 
Most of the 2 piece billet wheels are done locally I know of. The outers all come from mainly the same company or two..centers done by the wheel manufactures..(some outers done in china now too though) All the outers and centers I deal in are USA made
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Re: 440 Source Block
[Re: OzHemi]
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12/24/08 06:03 PM
12/24/08 06:03 PM
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Posts: 5,902
Athens, Greece
Pyper70
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Athens, Greece
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I think my rims were made in USA, they were custom made because they said they weren't in stock and had to make them. Its been 3 years since I bought them....I wanna say Wheel Vintiques...They shipped out 2-3 days later. I also paid 1800 for my rims. If they came from China, oh well, what doesn't come from there?? Its the new superpower for the market....The car has made over 4000 miles on those rims and they are still beautiful.
Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s
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Re: 440 Source Block
[Re: unknown]
#173582
12/24/08 06:51 PM
12/24/08 06:51 PM
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Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 741
Carson City, NV
440sourcedotcom
super stock
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super stock
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Carson City, NV
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SO are they going to make the block 
Sorry guys, It's been put on hold for the time being. The factory we were dealing with is used to pouring blocks for major automakers. After we perfected the tooling, they told us there would be a minimum requirement of several thousand blocks, which would require us to put up millions of dollars in investment capitol.
We tried to explain to them that big block Mopars are a "hobby" engine, and no company out there is going to sell these blocks by the thousands. The first shipment alone would have had to be over 3000 blocks. The block "waiting list" which we have been keeping over the last (approx) 2 years has 105 people on it.
Of course we could make the blocks if we doubled the price, but we wanted to keep them around the $1500 level, otherwise, why wouldn't you just go out and buy a World block?
To make a long story short, the consensus is basically that everyone felt it wasnt worth making, at least for the time being. Sorry if this disapoints some people, we have been working really hard on it ourselves, so it really wasn't what we were hoping to hear.
Happy holidays everyone!
Also, I bought a set of new Centerline Autodrag rims yesterday and they are still made here in Southern California!
And the comment above about World blocks is correct, they are NOT made in the USA. I'll let you take an educated guess on where they come from.
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Re: 440 Source Block
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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12/24/08 07:41 PM
12/24/08 07:41 PM
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Posts: 741
Carson City, NV
440sourcedotcom
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Carson City, NV
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Thanks Brandon, and a VERY Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Out of curiosity--what was to be the weight savings over a factory iron block?
Thanks and same to you!
There is no weight savings over a factory block. Most factory blocks weigh about 230 lbs, while most aftermarket iron blocks weigh in the high 200's to low 300's. The extra iron is a tradeoff for the extra strength (meat) in the block.
Aluminum blocks, of course, are a different story.
And not to plug our business, but just in case anyone is in need, we stock about 30 fully machined and ready to assemble factory engine blocks at any one time. They're all 100% done in the USA on Sunnen equipment. Honed with torque plates, line honed with ARP main studs, etc, etc. They're all 400's & 440's, most with factory main caps, a few have our billet main caps already installed. They're about 1/3 the cost of an aftermarket block, and with our girdle setup, we've made over 900hp with them. And, they're ready to ship asap. They get tanked, magged and baked, so they look about as close to brand new as you can get with a factory block. Just another option out there.
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Re: 440 Source Block
[Re: 440sourcedotcom]
#173588
12/24/08 07:47 PM
12/24/08 07:47 PM
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Kirkland, Washington
Pacnorthcuda
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Kirkland, Washington
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Thanks Brandon, and a VERY Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Out of curiosity--what was to be the weight savings over a factory iron block?
Thanks and same to you!
There is no weight savings over a factory block. Most factory blocks weigh about 230 lbs, while most aftermarket iron blocks weigh in the high 200's to low 300's. The extra iron is a tradeoff for the extra strength (meat) in the block.
Aluminum blocks, of course, are a different story.
My mistake--I assumed you were considering making an aluminum block!? No???
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Re: 440 Source Block
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
#173589
12/24/08 07:54 PM
12/24/08 07:54 PM
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Posts: 741
Carson City, NV
440sourcedotcom
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Carson City, NV
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My mistake--I assumed you were considering making an aluminum block!? No???
Sorry, no. It was always going to be iron. Thanks again everyone for the kind words, and we aren't ruling out this project forever... there may be a time (depending on the economy and other factors) when it becomes worth doing, and if that's the case, you can bet we'll go ahead with it.
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Re: 440 Source Block
[Re: 440sourcedotcom]
#173593
12/24/08 10:32 PM
12/24/08 10:32 PM
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Posts: 14,610
Not2farfromNashville, TN
Rug_Trucker
I Live Here
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I Live Here
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Posts: 14,610
Not2farfromNashville, TN
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I'm making a kit to melt down old beer cans and trailer siding, into aluminum blocks. Should be about $900 + the cost of wet sleeves  Kits are made in Indonesia. Merry Christmas! 
"The only thing to do for triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
"NUNQUAM NON PARATUS!"
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