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Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: J_BODY] #1735568
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Another thing you might note.......where are the guys saying "replace them every 4 years" live..... yep! the f'n desert!!




Yes.

I've had one blow-out with a Goodyear that still had 60% tread. Was just about 100 degrees and I was speeding (more heat). Uncommon temps for us, so I can totally get on board with the South Guys being a bit more concerned than us North Folk.


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Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Grizzly] #1735569
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Another thing you might note.......where are the guys saying "replace them every 4 years" live..... yep! the f'n desert!!




Yes.

I've had one blow-out with a Goodyear that still had 60% tread. Was just about 100 degrees and I was speeding (more heat). Uncommon temps for us, so I can totally get on board with the South Guys being a bit more concerned than us North Folk.





Rick Ehrenberg who is one of the smartest Mopar guys around posted on page one about a tire coming apart, He lives in New York not the desert

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: mopar346] #1735570
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20 + years old,5,700 miles,no rot,look like new,pitch them ??




If you plan on driving over 10 miles an hour then yes. What is your quarters worth? Much less blood and bones.

Simple fact is people who don't choice to believe at this point with as much evidence as there is will not believe due to anything that is said. When it happens to them, then they will believe and become the spokes person and hopefully it wont cost them too much for the lesson. I chose to err on the side of caution, tires aren't as much as paint work, besides original metal is priceless. [list]





Nope,found a better way to dispose of them !!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Vintage-F60-...0ee&vxp=mtr

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1735571
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I realize that someone will buy them but that is insane on so many levels, not you the ad, well maybe you too, not sure on that.


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Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: mopar346] #1735572
01/26/15 12:49 PM
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you guys are nuts running 10 year old tires up to 80+ MPH.

if its just a trailer queen or a car that doesn't see over like 45 mph then run the older tires.

i had a BFG that had 90% tread but was about 8 or 9 years go on me last may (can't find the pics). the tires looked great. no dry rot or cracks in the tread area. coming home from the OC MD cruise it blew out on the parkway. temp was nice not too hot not too cold. car doesn't see bad weather. just an old tire. every 4 years may be extreme but i sure wouldn't let them get 10 years old again..


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Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: mopar346] #1735573
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I realize that someone will buy them but that is insane on so many levels, not you the ad, well maybe you too, not sure on that.





Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1735574
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I had a blowout with a new tire with less than 100 miles. What does that tell you? It's gonna happen when it wants to. 4 years for replacement is extreme. Why not make it 3 years? Or 2? Or just don't leave the house?

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: 68_661charger] #1735575
01/26/15 02:29 PM
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I've never known anyone around here who replaced tires due to age. The tires that came new on my 07 are finished at 50,000 miles, wore em darn near to the cords before I swapped on the winter rubber. This spring, some new 9 year old tires will be going on and I'll likely run them till they drop too.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1735576
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20 + years old,5,700 miles,no rot,look like new,pitch them ??




Let's see that comes to 285 miles per year. I suspect those tires are on a trailer queen that never sees speeds above 30 MPH. My car sees 80 MPH plus every time I drive it. I average at least 3000 miles a year and it sees a lot of interstate milage. It is common for me to take the car on 200 mile trips. So spending $800 replacing tires every 4 to 5 years verse risking wrecking the classic and spending thousands to have it repaired makes perfect sense to me.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Dabee] #1735577
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20 + years old,5,700 miles,no rot,look like new,pitch them ??




Let's see that comes to 285 miles per year. I suspect those tires are on a trailer queen that never sees speeds above 30 MPH. My car sees 80 MPH plus every time I drive it. I average at least 3000 miles a year and it sees a lot of interstate milage. It is common for me to take the car on 200 mile trips. So spending $800 replacing tires every 4 to 5 years verse risking wrecking the classic and spending thousands to have it repaired makes perfect sense to me.




Way off on the 30 mph,drive it like everything else when I do and it's not a trailer queen.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: jose jones] #1735578
01/26/15 09:40 PM
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Another thing you might note.......where are the guys saying "replace them every 4 years" live..... yep! the f'n desert!!




Yes.

I've had one blow-out with a Goodyear that still had 60% tread. Was just about 100 degrees and I was speeding (more heat). Uncommon temps for us, so I can totally get on board with the South Guys being a bit more concerned than us North Folk.





Rick Ehrenberg who is one of the smartest Mopar guys around posted on page one about a tire coming apart, He lives in New York not the desert




I'm sure they have blow-outs in the North Pole too, the point I was trying to make is that heat multiplies the chances.


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Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Grizzly] #1735579
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Another thing you might note.......where are the guys saying "replace them every 4 years" live..... yep! the f'n desert!!




Yes.

I've had one blow-out with a Goodyear that still had 60% tread. Was just about 100 degrees and I was speeding (more heat). Uncommon temps for us, so I can totally get on board with the South Guys being a bit more concerned than us North Folk.





Rick Ehrenberg who is one of the smartest Mopar guys around posted on page one about a tire coming apart, He lives in New York not the desert




I'm sure they have blow-outs in the North Pole too, the point I was trying to make is that heat multiplies the chances.





I'd wager cold has a similar effect. Tires rolling in the sub freezing temps, not flexing like they would at 70*-90* or so, cracking when they would normally flex.
I drove a lot in the freezing ass cold, when tires would go thump thump thump until they got some heat in them.
Plastics that are flexible in the heat can and do splinter in the cold.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Airgrabber] #1735580
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And there you have it... Just replace all the tires when you change the vehicle's battery and you'll always feel good about the ride...Just a reminder like changing the batteries in the smoke detectors when you set the clocks back every year...

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: screamindriver] #1735581
01/27/15 03:29 AM
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I wouldn't want someone getting hurt on tires I sold them...20 year old tires need to be destroyed or used just in the trunk for show spares..


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Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: Grizzly] #1735582
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Uncommon temps for us, so I can totally get on board with the South Guys being a bit more concerned than us North Folk.




Up here in the North East the only time we ever see blow outs is when it summer time so that makes sense. I never see it otherwise.

Oh and Michelin? I know it was well over a decade ago but in the RV business use to be one of the worst tires ever and the company would screw you blind if you tried to get them warrantied. And we were a dealer selling vehicles factory equipped with them.




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Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: gdonovan] #1735583
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7 year old tire on a trailer, less than 100 miles later another one did exactly the same thing. You guys can run old tires all you want, but hope you don't kill somebody else.

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Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: screamindriver] #1735584
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And there you have it... Just replace all the tires when you change the vehicle's battery and you'll always feel good about the ride...Just a reminder like changing the batteries in the smoke detectors when you set the clocks back every year...




So then I would still have 12 yr old tires the same as the 12 yr old restoration battery from the former New Castle Battery ( actualy two of their batteries since 1992 ) that is still works like it did ten yrs ago ?

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Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1735585
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That is amazing on the batteries.


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Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: mopar346] #1735586
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That is amazing on the batteries.




Only two since I finished car in 1992,first wet cell,this one sealed.The original New Castle Co ( Turbo Start) probably had the best reproduction,quality went down hill when they changed hands,now Axiom Power.

Re: Outdated tire questions? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1735587
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20 + years old,5,700 miles,no rot,look like new,pitch them ??




Yes! Unless you have jacked the car up so the weight has been off the tires most of their lives, they have been sitting in the exact positions for long periods of time have flat spotted. Each of those long term siting flat spots have deformed the belts inside the tires. Then you take those tires out on the road, and after a few miles, they return round and smooth out, but the damage is still there. Your highway speed ride creates a lot of heat which will compound the defective belt situation. I suspect you have been fortunate for the last 8- 10 years. Are you still feeling lucky?

Your tires would probably be great for a trailer queen that hides in a trailer, comes out to park on the field, do a little low speed around town driving, then go back in the trailer. To expect 20 year old tires that spend most of their lives sitting in the same place holding up a car, to go out and do highway speeds is pretty brave.

Personally, I would be changing those tires if it was my car. Gene

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